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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 15:50, 6 October 2009 [1].

List of Minnesota North Stars head coaches[edit]

Nominator(s): -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 03:36, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Too much to count how many head coach articles I've nominated for FL. Grammar, copy-edits, etc. can go directly to the article. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 03:36, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 23:54, 11 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I think the first paragraph doesn't flow very well because it doesn't quite follow chronological order. You should talk about the North Stars joining NHL before talking about the relocation and championships.—Chris! ct 20:07, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed paragraph. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 00:22, 16 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
One problem still remains: the sentence "but lost in both Finals; the franchise did win a Stanley Cup after the relocation" comes before you mention the Stars' relocation. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:08, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
1980-81 and 1990-91 are before 1993 though... If it still bothers you, just be bold and move it. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 23:53, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I ended up deleting the phrase; I could not think of a way to rearrange it without disrupting the flow or confusing the reader. It's not vital information anyway; after all, this is an article about the coaches of the Stars team of Minnesota. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ehh... -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 14:57, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Meets the criteria. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 01:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Giants2008 (17–14) 19:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comments – Made one quick pass through the lead already, but have found a few more things I want to bring up before this is promoted.
  • "Minneapolis – St. Paul – Bloomington, Minnesota–Wisconsin." Weird to have different dash styles in the same sentence like this.
  • Per WP:DASHES, it has to be like this, because St. Paul is one city, but has two words. If the dashes aren't spaced, it will look like Minneapolis–St., then Paul–Bloomington. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 16:58, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • "as part of the Prince of Wales Conference championship in the 1980–81 season, and in the 1990–91 season after receiving the Clarence S. Campbell Bowl after winning the Western Conference playoffs." First part of this reads poorly; do you mean "as the Prince of Wales Conference champions"? Also repetition with the two "after -ings".
  • The head coach link looks like it has more to do with football than hockey. There is a Coach (ice hockey) article; it's a terrible page at the moment, but maybe someone reading one of these lists will see it and want to improve it.
  • I was trying to say that you could replace the head coach link with it. Up to personal preference, though.
  • I decided not to add the link into the article, since I couldn't put it anywhere besides replacing it with the head coach link. The head coach link IMO is better off staying there. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 23:30, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Giants2008 (17–14) 22:07, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • "were also the general manager of the North Stars during their tenure as head coach." Make "tenure" plural.
  • "Glen Sonmor has served three terms as North Stars head coach." Drop "has". The North Stars aren't coming back to Minnesota, so this should be past tense.
  • "'Miracle on Ice' coach Herb Brooks". While all American sports fans know what the Miracle on Ice is, this will come off as jargon to a non-sports fan. Try starting the sentence with "1980 U.S. Olympic", and pipe the Miracle link.
  • "Sonmor and Gainey are the only head coaches to have been to the Stanley Cup Finals with the North Stars, in the 1981 and 1991 Stanley Cup Finals respectively." Instead of a somewhat awkward to read "to have been to", try shortening it with "to reach the". Also, there is needless repetition with "Stanley Cup Finals". Thought I changed this one, but it's still here. At least shorten the second one to just Finals.

Giants2008 (17–14) 14:36, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for giving the only review. :D Just a small minor detail, but could you replace the "–" with "–" on your username? Thanks in advance! NFL season already started. o.O -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 23:30, 27 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Good one. Nice to see a couple of coach/manager lists at FLC again. Giants2008 (17–14) 19:09, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, meets the criteria. Goodraise 18:11, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suppport Clearly a great list, one comment. Why is the key formatted that way, broken apart into three tables? Yes it makes it shorter vertically, but it's far more distracting to me. Also, are there really no other applicable images? Perhaps at least a better shot of Herb Brooks, perhaps from his time with the 02 Olympic team under governmental PD? It's worth hunting for, that table can be slimmed down to allow for images. Staxringold talkcontribs 01:26, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The key is broken into three tables since the key will be too long if it only has one table. I tried searching Herb Brooks on usa.gov, but found two images of what I think is him that are just too small. It would be nice if you could take some time to do so! -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 01:37, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The list is a bit confusing:
  1. Wren Blair and Charlie Burns are listed both as head coaches of the 1969–70 NHL season
Because Blair resigned as head coach during mid-season, and was replaced with Burns. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 17:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Why don't you merge the em dashes with coach numbers? Ie. Wren Blair should have Games coached as 84 + 63 = 147.
Wahh...? -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]] 17:49, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 09:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. Everything seems fine. support--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 19:32, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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