Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of New England Revolution seasons/archive1

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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:26, 2 May 2024 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of New England Revolution seasons[edit]

Featured list candidates/List of New England Revolution seasons/archive1

Nominator(s): Brindille1 (talk) 00:25, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm nominating this list because I think it's a well-formatted list and because it's my favorite team! The prose has been updated to give an overview of the team, the competitions they play in, and their history. The table gives a detailed overview of each season and their record. I took inspiration from List of Seattle Sounders FC seasons, which is a featured list for another MLS team. Brindille1 (talk) 00:25, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comments

Wikilink the first usages of "league" and "conference".
- I think both of these are MOS:OL, as they both should be understood most anyone reading the article, but I don't feel strongly and added the links.
In the table heading use Template:abbr like in the Seattle Sounders list.
Is the league column necessary in the table? They have been in the same league since their establishment.
What is QR2 and QR3 in the USOC column.
In that same column, the sorting is weird, Ro32 is shown as better than Ro16, and RU is shown as worse than SF. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 04:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, addressed each of these. Added QR2 and QR3 to the key. Brindille1 (talk) 23:03, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How is QR2 different from R2?

The sorting of the USoC column is still weird. I'm getting this order when I sort it in ascending order "qr3, qr2, r2, r3, r4, Ro32". -MPGuy2824 (talk) 03:50, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MPGuy2824

"How is QR2 different from R2?"

>>> For a few years, the USOC had MLS teams qualify by playing in a miniature tournament before qualifying for the tournament proper (all sources I've seen list these rounds as part of the tournament). So QR2 is the second qualifying round, and R2 is the second round of the tournament proper.

"The sorting of the USoC column is still weird."

>>> I initially based the sorting for each column of results is based on the number of teams left in the competition when the Revolution were eliminated. Given that the QR's are arguably not the tournament proper, I've switched it to QF > Ro16 > R4 > R3 > QR3 > QR2 which should hopefully be more intuitive Brindille1 (talk) 01:45, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
When I sort the USOC column in descending order, I get the following : R2 > QR2 > QR3. This clashes with your explanation above.

Can you paraphrase the above explanation (about QR2/3) and add it as as a note? Also add a note for PR. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 09:31, 18 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@MPGuy2824: That's an error, it now sorts "R2>QR3>QR2". I added a note to the instances of QR2/QR3 as well which I hope clarifies any confusion. Brindille1 (talk) 23:06, 19 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support promotion, but please add that PK means Penalty Kick. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 07:43, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed, thanks for reviewing! Brindille1 (talk) 15:27, 20 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment[edit]

The top goalscorer column is sorting based on the nationality rather than on the player's name -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:03, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, it now sorts by last name. Brindille1 (talk) 22:06, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)[edit]

Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. !rowspan=2|Season becomes !scope=col rowspan=2|Season. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use !scope=colgroup instead.
Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --Pres N 17:59, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, this is fixed now. Brindille1 (talk) 20:27, 23 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review from Z1720[edit]

Version reviewed

Ref 11: Archive is a broken link
Seems to work fine for me https://web.archive.org/web/20080321234537/http://web.mlsnet.com/news/mls_news.jsp?ymd=20080313&content_id=143146&vkey=pr_mls&fext=.jsp Brindille1 (talk) 00:18, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 12: The author is Major League Soccer Communications

Ref 13: The author is SUM Communications
Ref 14 and 23 are the same source. They should be merged together.
Ref 21: The author is @Opencup Staff
Ref 24: The author is Staff Writer
Ref 30: Per MOS:ALLCAPS the title should not be in all caps.
Sometimes the publisher is wikilinked (ref 41 & 42) while other times they are not (Ref 1 & 2). This should be consistent in the article.

Source check: No concerns with refs 11, 14, 32, 44, 46

Ref 2: Could not verify the following: "based in Foxborough, Massachusetts", "The club was established in 1995 as one of ten original MLS teams"

Removed this reference and added new ones.Brindille1 (talk) 14:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ref 16: "The club holds the record for the most points in a single season, with 73 points in the 2021 season." The source does not verify that this record still stands.
Ref 18: Source says that the 1,529 attendance record was in 2020. Also, 2024's attendance number is lower. Were there COVID restrictions that year?

The first one is a typo. For the second one, I qualified it by saying "as of the end of the 2023 season". I don't think this is entirely necessary, as the paragraph starts with the same qualifier, but happy to clarify it here. Brindille1 (talk) 00:24, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Those are my thoughts. Z1720 (talk) 23:04, 26 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720: Thank you for the thorough review. I've addressed each of these comments. Thanks! Brindille1 (talk) 14:47, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Issues above are resolved. One last quibble: ref 31 SOCCERWAY should not be in all caps. Since this is a minor correction, I can support based on a source review. Z1720 (talk) 21:09, 27 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed, thanks again for the review Brindille1 (talk) 04:22, 28 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

"is an soccer team"..?
" The premier club competition in North American soccer since 1962." - I would suggest " The premier club competition in North and Central American soccer since 1962."
Pink colour for "last place" also needs a symbol for accessibility purposes. This doesn't apply to 1st/2nd/3rd as in those cases it is obvious from the number
That's what I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:01, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude Thanks for reviewing, I've corrected those issues. Brindille1 (talk) 22:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:29, 30 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promoting. --Pres N 20:25, 1 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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