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- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by User:The Rambling Man 08:30, 17 July 2008 [1].
I have created and expanded the article, and I believe the page matches criteria. Thanks for the comments in advance. --LAAFan 23:24, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I haven't looked at the other coaches, but I'm more than positive Lou Pinella has an award. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 23:49, 6 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Added award. I looked and he was the only Mariners manager to win an award--LAAFan 00:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please don't strike others comments. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay. I undid it.--LAAFan 00:39, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Please don't strike others comments. « Milk's Favorite Cøøkie 00:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment "Dick Williams" is missing a star (but it has the background color). Gary King (talk) 00:03, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Added star.--LAAFan 00:17, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment The article needs to state why a manager was fired and what credentials his replacement had (e.g. third base coach). Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 12:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm assuming you mean Johnson being replaced by Wills. I added that, and also added about the last two managers. (McLaren, Hargrove). --LAAFan 14:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorta fixed. For example, Lachemann and Crandall's firings are still not explained. Furthermore, you need references to back up all these coaching changes. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 17:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done
- Sorta fixed. For example, Lachemann and Crandall's firings are still not explained. Furthermore, you need references to back up all these coaching changes. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 17:09, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment
- No more than 3 paragraphs.
Done
- "American League West" should be linked to just "American League West".
Done
- Link all the years.
Done
- "in franchise history" should be "in their franchise history".
Done
- you don't have to quote mark "interim".
Done
- "First, in 1980" should be just "In 1980".
Done
- "for poor" should be "for a poor".
Done
- "One year later" should be " A year later".
Done
- Delete "The current manager of the Seattle Mariners is Jim Riggleman, who has led the team since 2008." since that's just repeated the last sentence in the third paragraph.
Done
- All the term years should be linked to the MLB season.
Done
- All the terms that have been less than one season should be just linked to one season. e.g "1972-1972" should be just "1972"
Done
- At the end of the table, put {{Seattle Mariners}} and the link to "Category:Seattle Mariners".
Done
Annoyomous24 (talk) 21:49, 8 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Annoyomous24 23:34, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comments
- Use en-dash to separate years (e.g. in the caption)
- {{working
- "didn't last a full " avoid contractions = did not.
Done
- Major League Baseball is linked twice in quick succession in the lead.
Done
- "116 win" needs a hyphen.
Done
- "predecessors had made it to the playoffs before." before is redundant - "predecessor" ensures it happened before.
Done
- "In 1983, Lachemann was relieved by Del Crandall" + "In 1986, Cottier was relieved by Marty Martinez." - dull, repetitive prose.
Done
- "In 2007, manager Mike Hargrove resigned and was replaced with bench coach John McLaren midseason.[4] A year later, in 2008, McLaren was fired for a poor performance and replaced with bench coach Jim Riggleman.[5]" boring to read - basically the same sentence with different names - can we brighten this prose up a little?
Done
- "Cottier was relieved by Marty Martinez. After one game,..." one game! That's pretty interesting, why did it happen?
Done
- John McLaren points to a disambig page.
Done
- Ref 3 needs its author.
Done see below
- And USA Today isn't the publisher, it's the work. Check the other references.
Done Actually removed reference, as it really does not support the statement.
- Manager of the Year awards need citation.
Done
- Pinella's link is dead.
Done
The Rambling Man (talk) 12:01, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
CommentsSupport- Lead says 14, table lists 15. Any reason why?
Done Mistake on my part.
- For the awards column, write "Manager of the Year Award (1995, 2001)" Don't repeat.
Done
- basketballreference or basketball-reference?
Done baseball-reference.com
- Note "A": coach→ manager.
Done
- Lead says 14, table lists 15. Any reason why?
--Crzycheetah 06:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Object, looks good just a couple of fixes are required:- John McLaren & Jim Riggleman inconsistencies:
- Citations are switched
Done
- Jim Riggleman's stats don't match the reference
Done
- Riggleman's stats are not consistent with the statement "Statistics are accurate through June 30th of the 2007 MLB season." in the "Key" section.
Done
Not done (see 2008 Seattle Mariners season & McLaren)
Done
- Citations are switched
- The first paragraph of the lead contains 4 sentences that don't flow well. They are simple statements (only one of is not dominated by info on the Seattle Mariners, opposed to managers of...): The Mariners are based in Seattle, Washington. They are members of the American League West division of the American League. Please use transitions. The second third paragraphs are much better in terms of flow.
Done
- [Pinella] "led the team to the American League Division Series in 1995 and 2001". Yes, that's true. Pinella took the Mariners to the ALCS 3 times.
Done
Not done
Done (see American League Division Series & American League Championship Series)
- "...who never managed again because of his poor performance'.[5]" - the reference does not assign a reason to why he never managed again.
Done
- "Darrell Johnson was fired for a poor performance and was replaced by Maury Wills.[4]" - the reference is just a stats page and doesn't say that Johnson was fired or assign a reason why he was replaced.
Done
Not done
Done (Johnson was fired for a poor performance -is there a reference that can specify why Johnson was replaced, poor performance vs. personality conflict, incompatible managerial style with player/coaches/frontoffice?)
- Like the previous 2 examples above, there are instances in that third paragraph that are not supported by any of the listed references. maclean 19:33, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
Done[reply]
- John McLaren & Jim Riggleman inconsistencies:
Question, which reference does Pinella's playoff record come from? maclean 23:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]- Support Everything looks good here. --maclean 06:28, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support Don't see any problems here. Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 07:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.