Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of U.S. state and territory mottos/archive1

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The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 20:38, 9 June 2009 [1].

List of U.S. state and territory mottos[edit]

Nominator(s): Reywas92 ^Talk 23:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Featured list candidates/List of U.S. state and territory mottos/archive1

I did a whole lot of work on this list a while back and had two peer reviews, but then didn't bother to nominate it. I think it is fully referenced and accurate and ready for FL. I know I've got all the mottos, but, as explained in the article, the years are more difficult. Some states have made the motto official, but for others it's just part of the seal, complicating things. Anyway, lots of researching states' dissimilar websites led to what it is now. Thanks! Reywas92 ^Talk 23:18, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I hope to eventually work on List of national mottos. Do think it would be acceptable to not have the year? US states were okay, but finding some of them was tough enough. Years of adoption (or even no official adoption) of a motto or seal of countries with other languages, bad websites, etc. could be impossible to find. Reywas92 ^Talk 02:45, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support - After reviewing this at peer review and making some fixes, I think it fulfills all criteria - though I think empty cells in translation column should have emdashes also to ensure consistency—Chris! _ct 02:34, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! I tried the dashes and they don't look too bad, so I kept them. Reywas92 ^Talk 02:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support - well done. Looked hard for some improvement that could be made, came up empty. Geraldk (talk) 18:44, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

Check the toolbox, there is one dab link.
"All of the United States' 50 states have a state motto, " You link "United States" and then "U.S. state" soon after. Why not ditch the link to the United States, since U.S. state has a direct link to United States anyway?
"State mottos can ~~often~~ be found on state seals or state flags" "often" is subjective. Maybe "sometimes"?
"~~which was~~ proclaimed by Congress and signed into law by President Dwight D. Eisenhower on July 30, 1956."
"which do not have any mottos, official or unofficial." Ditch the last three words. No mottos means no mottos.
"most used languages"-->most-used languages
"~~which was~~ granted"
The images need a licensing check; for example File:Arizonastateseal.jpg has an obsolete tag.
I'd prefer if the em dashes were centered. It looks better and makes them more noticeable.
Notes 3 and 13 need refs. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:48, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- All done except the dashes and 13. I'd rather they be less noticeable, and everything else is also left-aligned. I can't find a ref that explicitly says that Washington's is the only one not official, but it make sense since all others are. I could just link to the ref used in the table[2] just like all the other notes.
  - The dab link hasn't been addressed either. If you can't find a more specific link, you might as well just delink it. Dabomb87 (talk) 14:28, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Thanks, got it. I had Eureka (word) correctly linked in one place, but didn't notice the Eureka link in another.

Sources

What makes http://www.netstate.com/states/mottoes/ok_motto.htm reliable? Dabomb87 (talk) 16:48, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I think it is a great informative site. It cites its sources and has all important information. The only reason I'm using it is because the book and the state site have nothing regarding the dates. Reywas92^Talk 19:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Well, a site being informative doesn't necessarily make it reliable. I think I questioned this site during the peer review, too.—Chris! _ct 04:16, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Then I don't have a source for the original year. I have searched and searched but can't find anything.
      - Print sources too? Dabomb87 (talk) 17:27, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        I've added some other refs, though it wasn't the type I was looking for. Reywas92 ^Talk 23:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
~~http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/emblems/flag.htm (ref 44) deadlinks.~~ Dabomb87 (talk) 14:29, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/emblems/flag.htm worked just fine for me. Try again, maybe that site was having errors. Reywas92^Talk 17:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yep, it works now. Dabomb87 (talk) 17:27, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support but I would prefer

Only six states and territories use another language, of which each language is only used once.

having those six languages listed. Also, please change "Date" to something like "Year chosen" or something more specific. Nergaal (talk) 18:20, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's necessary to list all six more languages because that just repeats the table further. The Rambling Man changed it from Year to Date because often more than just the year is given. Reywas92 ^Talk 19:06, 7 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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