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List of World Heritage Sites in Portugal[edit]

List of World Heritage Sites in Portugal (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Tone 07:31, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Portugal has 17 sites on the list and a further 19 tentative sites. The format is standard. I have another list nominated, for Georgia, which is already seeing support. As a side note, Madeira is missing on the map, even it has one site. But as the site covers several parts of the island, it would make little sense to add a map of Madeira with a dot in the centre. Tone 07:31, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • "Town's defence systems include" => "The town's defence systems include"
  • "The convent was founded in the 12th-century" => "The convent was founded in the 12th century"
  • "The city Évora" => "The city of Évora"
  • "A typical feature of the city are" => "A typical feature of the city is"
  • "a relic of a forest type that has 40-15 million years ago covered large parts of Southern Europe" => "a relic of a forest type that covered large parts of Southern Europe 40-15 million years ago"
  • "Between late 15th and 17th centuries" => "Between the late 15th and 17th centuries"
  • "the most known product of the region" => "the best-known product of the region"
  • "Wine production in the Pico Island begun" => "Wine production in the Pico Island began"
  • "Portugal regain independence from Spain in 1640" => "Portugal regained independence from Spain in 1640"
  • "The main buildings were build in the Baroque style" => "The main buildings were built in the Baroque style"
  • "Even if the activities have declined and finally ended in the 20th century" => "Although the activities have declined and finally ended in the 20th century"
  • "The town of Mértola is located at the banks" => "The town of Mértola is located on the banks"
  • "Sites along the route are in present Uruguay" => "Sites along the route are in present-day Uruguay"
  • "They are the smallest and the oldest (27My)" - what's "27My"?
  • "it contained world's largest pointed arch" => "it contained the world's largest pointed arch"
  • "constructed through centuries on the island of Madeira" => "constructed over centuries on the island of Madeira"
  • "systematic mapping has only begun in the 1960s" => "systematic mapping only began in the 1960s"
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:54, 21 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @ChrisTheDude: Done, thank you! After reading the text several times, some typos just slip through... --Tone 12:08, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:39, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support by Gerald Waldo Luis[edit]

Resolved comments from GeraldWL 10:41, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, great to see you again with another WHS nom! GeraldWL 11:13, 23 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've never seen the second sentence of the lead in the leads of other WHS articles; they're mostly placed after "Criteria i through vi are cultural, whereas vii through x are natural."
    • This is the style I am using now after some nominations had comments that the intro could be expanded.
  • "only natural site, the other sites" --> "only natural site; the other sites"
  • Last sentence is convoluted. Suggest changing to "One site, the Prehistoric Rock Art Sites in the Côa Valley and Siega Verde, is shared with Spain, thus the only transnational Portuguese World Heritage Site."
  • "the Stock exchange" --> "the Stock Exchange Palace"
  • All the other sites' description start with "The", whereas some start with "This". Needs consistency.
    • I think this is fine, from grammar point of view? I start "This nomination" those items that are not of type "The church" or similar.
  • "The extension to the World Heritage Site covers the Couros (Leather) Zone"-- I don't think the translation parantheses is needed, as readers who are trivially curious as to what 'couros' means can just Google-translate it.
  • "This nomination comprises the historic downtown (Baixa) of Lisbon." The brackets make it sound like it's secondary information, when it's not. Suggest changing to "This nomination comprises Baixa, the historic downtown of Lisbon.
  • Suggest changing the Commons template to Template:Commons-inline per WP:ELLAYOUT: "If box-type templates are not good, either because they result in a long sequence of right-aligned boxes hanging off the bottom of the article, or because there are no external links except sister project ones, then consider using 'inline' templates."
    • I am not sure about this one, should I write it in a bullet instead?
      • Done it for ya :) GeraldWL 02:03, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • Ah yes, I though that was the case. Thanks :)
    • @Gerald Waldo Luis: Done most, thank you! Some comments inline above. --Tone 12:08, 24 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks for the responses! I took a quick last glance at this list, and I think it's all good now for me. Support. GeraldWL 10:41, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oooh I've been to five of these! The most I've been to beside the US.

  • "nominated by countries which" should be "nominated by countries that"
  • There shouldn't be a comma after 'beauty'
  • I know the first paragraph is consistent across some of your articles, but I think it would read better if the second and third sentences were parallel since they're so long, i.e. "Cultural heritage is X. Natural heritage is Y." instead of "Cultural heritage is X. Y is natural heritage."
  • Tha map is missing Bom Jesus and Mafra
  • "Criteria i through vi are cultural, whereas vii through x are natural" should use "and" instead of "whereas".
  • "Being built" -> just "Built"
  • "the whitewashed houses decorated with azulejos and wrought-iron balconies dating from the 16th to the 18th century" duplicates the source.
  • "The city has been developing through its 2,000 year history and its monuments date from different eras." is vague, can you reword to be more specific?
  • "while the Siega Verde" should be "and the Siega Verde". That could include that there are 5,000 animal figures
  • "40-15" should have a dash not hyphen
  • "Guimarães is closely associated with the creation of the national identity and language of Portugal" again duplicates the source. Please stop doing this.
  • "in history's first circumnavigation" doesn't need the "in"
  • "The group" -> "This group"
  • "sport objects" is weird wording
  • "one of the protagonists of contemporary architecture." Unusual word choice of "protagonist" gives away this copy-paste from the source
  • The closely paraphrased "It is important from the geological point of view" is much better as "It is geologically important"
  • If you're going to write "The nomination describes the property as a masterpiece of modern architecture and an example of a perfect relationship between interior and exterior landscapes", you should at least use quotation marks to indicate the words are directly lifted...
  • Gonçalo Ribeiro Telles needs wikilink and António Vianna Barreto could link to the ptwiki article, otherwise these are meaningless random names; same for the architects, else remove

Nice work – Reywas92Talk 04:18, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Reywas92: Done, thank you for a detailed review and useful suggestions. I linked the names to :pt now, makes sense. I restructured the parts that were too close to the source. --Tone 10:13, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
AryKun
  • "30 September 1980" → "30 September, 1980"
    • No it was correct before. A comma is used to separate numbers but isn't needed between words and numbers. Reywas92Talk 18:35, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Link Lisbon in the lead.
  • "most recent inscriptions" → Inscriptions is a weird way to put it, maybe "additions" would be better.
  • Link Azores in the caption under the map of the Azores.
  • "century, during" → Comma unnecessary
  • "in the 1980" → "in a 1980"?
  • Link "Portuguese monarchy" in Monastery of Batalha.
  • Link "Cultural landscape" in the title of Cultural Landscape of Sintra?
  • "22,000 – 8,000 BCE" → Doesn't need the spaces around the en-dash
  • Link Madeira and endemic in Laurisilva.
  • "production in the Pico Island" → "production on Pico Island"
  • "padre Cosmander" → Link Cosmander to pt wiki
  • "food for the Iberian pigs" → "the" unnecessary
  • The alt text for the image of Sintra ("Look at a palace from above") should be changed to "aerial view of a castle with a white façade and orange roofs"
  • That's all I got. AryKun (talk) 12:28, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Although not required, a review at my FLC would be appreciated.
    • @AryKun: Done, thanks! Some of the links you suggest are already linked elsewhere in the same row, so that would be excessive. I'll have a look at the cricket list at some point :) --Tone 14:01, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Okay, I don't have any other comments, so will support. AryKun (talk) 14:08, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 15:24, 15 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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