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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

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List of World Heritage Sites in the Republic of Macedonia[edit]

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Nominator(s): Tone 14:42, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Following the promotion of List of World Heritage Sites in Bosnia and Herzegovina to a FL, the list in Macedonia is the only remaining of the former Yugoslav republics that is not a FL. Admittedly, it is the shortest one (1 site + 3 tentative sites), but it is comprehensive and factual nonetheless. The style is coherent with the BiH list, addressing all the issues raised there. Tone 14:42, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from TompaDompa (talk) 17:23, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  1. The tentative sites are the Cave Slatinski Izvor, a geological formation Markovi Kuli, and the megalithic archaeo-astronomical complex Kokino. – the indefinite article should be definite, because this can be interpreted as two sites.
  2. There's not really any reason for a single-entry table to be sortable (and not much of a reason for a three-entry one either).
  3. As of 2017, Macedonia recorded three sites on its tentative list – it's 2018 now.
  4. The sites, along with the year they were included on the tentative list, are listed below. is unnecessary and should be removed.
  5. It would be nice to have a photograph of the Cave Slatinski Izvor.
  6. Slatina river should be linked if there is an article for this particular river of that name (I note that there are several).
  7. the last ice age – all the words should be linked, or the reader will assume the link goes to ice age.
  8. If there is an article for Tatićev Kamen, it should be linked.
  9. It looks a bit weird to link the second instance of "solstice" rather than the first.
  10. "declination" should be linked.

I also have to admit that I have some non-negligible reservations about endorsing so short a list for WP:FL status, even if it is comprehensive in the sense that it is exhaustive. TompaDompa (talk) 16:14, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed the comments above, compliments to your sharp eye ;) I could not find any useful images on Commons for the cave, just for the surroundings, which I prefer not to use. The article for the river exists on mk wiki, which I linked. Tatićev Kamen does not have a separate article. I cannot do much regarding the 1+3, though. --Tone 16:57, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral. TompaDompa (talk) 17:23, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong oppose I believe this page needs to be redirected to the List of World Heritage Sites in Southern Europe. Criterion 3(b) was added specifically to avoid lists similar to this one getting featured. A page with just one item is not a list.--Cheetah (talk) 19:13, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • There are tentative sites that do not appear in the regional listings, and those are relevant. --Tone 12:17, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • They will always be secondary information however relevant you make them to be. Actual World Heritage Sites will always be the primary information in these lists. Now, there is just one World Heritage Site in the Republic of Macedonia. It is impossible to make a list out of just one site.--Cheetah (talk) 17:52, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose – Sorry, but I have to agree with Crzycheetah. While I'm okay with considering the tentative sites worthy of credit as entries, that still leaves only four locations that could "reasonably be included as part of a related article", which the featured list criteria call a 3b violation. I've liked your other similar World Heritage Site lists, but I can't consider a list with four items in it to represent our best work. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:09, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Giants2008: Ok, in that case it will probably be best if I withdraw the nomination and consider it in a couple of years, if more entries show up on the list. I will probably go ahead with the Albania list then, which I worked on in the meantime. Thanks! --Tone 10:40, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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