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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 5 November 2018 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of awards and nominations received by Meghan Trainor[edit]

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Nominator(s): NØ 13:53, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

After a lot of work on this list I can say that all of the entries on it currently are reliably-sourced and the lead section is also good in my opinion. It meets the FL criteria I think. Considering the fact that Trainor's career has also seen a commercial nosedive, it is very likely that the list will stay stable in the near future.--NØ 13:53, 30 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Note to future closing admin: The only criticism given while casting the above oppose vote was the format, which has now been changed to to the new format now. So I would say that the oppose holds no weight anymore.--NØ 15:24, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Just FYI, it doesn't need an admin to close it, and it could actually be me who closes it as an FLC delegate, so I don't think telling me my own "oppose" holds "no weight" needs to be stated. It's a little rude really, especially as I haven't reviewed the rest of the content. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:22, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry if that came off rude, it really wasn't intended that way. My comment was to address the fact that all the concerns you raised so far have been addressed. In my opinion this list looks exactly like the Matthew McConaughey one you cited as an example. Your comments here so far and any future ones are really appreciated and welcomed!--NØ 16:30, 16 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The format currently used in this Meghan Trainor article is the same one as List of awards and nominations received by Taylor Swift, List of awards and nominations received by Ariana Grande and List of awards and nominations received by Katy Perry. All of the aforementioned are featured lists and are about Trainor's peers. I also think it is the more convenient format to navigate personally.--NØ 17:49, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Then my oppose stands. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:52, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Your oppose can stand but it doesn't hinder the list from satisfying the FL criteria considering this is the most commonly used format. Cheers.--NØ 19:13, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, and I'm just one voter here. I think it fails FLC criterion 4, as do all the others which you've noted, because the terribly 1990s clunky subsectioned lists could be far better presented to our readers. There is no way on earth that people will be clicking on the TOC to navigate to specific awards. And the result is a terrible jarring clunky collection of minuscule "tables" with one or two entries. Not good enough any more. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:19, 2 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Apologies for jumping into the conversation, but it is a pretty simple change to fulfill the above suggestion. I actually just did this for one of my older FLs (an award list for Sharon Stone) based on this discussion, and it was quicker and easier than I expected. Just wanted to let you know in case other reviewers suggest the same thing. Aoba47 (talk) 17:41, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'll wait for consensus to form and then decide if we are gonna change the format. I'm a bit hesitant to do so when so many FLs for other musicians have the format that is currently in this list.--NØ 20:29, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The old format you mean? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:35, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The 'old' format that is still in use on almost every musician's awards and nominations list including the featured ones. I'll gladly change it though once we have a few more people support this change and also support its application on other lists.--NØ 20:52, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, when something switches from old to new, it takes forever to get the old ones up to the new standard required. As noted above, it's not too hard and provides countless aesthetic and navigation benefits. We'll await this consensus (although right now, it's 2/2 for the new). The Rambling Man (talk) 20:54, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, NØ invited me to participate in this discussion because I am active on awards — although in fact I only edit scientific awards. If there is an established format then I would be reluctant to change it without good reason. But FWIW, I have a strong preference for the integrated sortable table. It is more compact, visually more appealing, and easier to navigate.🝨⚬ʍP (talk) 15:06, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your input! In case no one else comes and objects to the following, I will change the format to the newer one whenever I get time in the next 5 days. Thanks to everyone for your patience and input.--NØ 15:13, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Rambling Man The article has been upgraded to the new format. I would really appreciate your reconsideration to review it!--NØ 18:15, 14 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support from Aoba47
  • Do you think this image (File:150426 Meghan Trainor.jpg) as it is a little higher quality and is a clearer image of her face (i.e. without the microphone in her face)?
  • You will need a reference for this part (Trainor signed a record deal with Epic Records in 2014).
  • For this part (which earned her Grammy nominations for both Record of the Year, and Song of the Year.), I do no think that "both" is necessary.
  • You use "earned" three times in a close proximity in the first paragraph so I would vary the language to avoid repetition.
  • This sentence (Trainor released her major-label debut album Title the following year.) needs a reference. The same comment (Trainor's second major-label studio album Thank You was preceded by its lead single "No".) applies for this sentence.
  • Trainer received a few nominations in 2018; should they be mentioned in the lead?
  • Each of the individual sections need citations for the descriptions of the awards. The following are a few examples that require citations (ARIA Music Awards, Hollywood Music in Media Awards, Japan Gold Disc Award, Juno Awards, and Latin American Music Awards)

Once my comments are addressed, I will support this for promotion. I hope you found this review to be helpful. Aoba47 (talk) 22:03, 6 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I believe I addressed all of your concerns, please tell me if I do something more.--NØ 10:35, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for addressing everything. I support this based on the prose. I do not have an issue with the formatting as it is consistent and well-formatted for this particular article. If you have the time, I would greatly appreciate any comments or suggestions for my current FLC. It is a similar type of a list (i.e. awards and nominations) by someone who's career has taken a much larger nosedive than Trainor's lol. Either way, have a wonderful day and/or night! Aoba47 (talk) 01:55, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support from BeatlesLedTV

Looks good. Great job! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 17:22, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I added the scope rows here!--NØ 18:43, 15 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Support from The Rambling Man
  • Nice work on reformatting the list to the new and improved standard! One standout issue: if Wikipedia doesn't consider ASCAP Pop Music Awards to be notable, why are they included in this list? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:33, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I do think the ASCAP Pop Music Awards are notable tbh. I found coverage in many reliable sources: [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]. They’re also included in prestigious FLs List of awards and nominations received by Katy Perry and List of awards and nominations received by Madonna so I left them in! Edit: I added wikilinks to the ASCAP page like in the FLs I used as examples.—NØ 21:23, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Firstly, don't cap my comments again without my permission, that's bad form.
  • Secondly, good work on fixing up the format to be really much better than the previous.
  • Thirdly, thank you for addressing the corollary issues I noted.
  • Fourthly, SUPPORT this. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:24, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed, added archivelinks to references, promoting. --PresN 21:40, 4 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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