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The list was promoted by NapHit 02:06, 8 January 2013 [1].

List of awards and nominations received by The Vampire Diaries[edit]

List of awards and nominations received by The Vampire Diaries (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): — Bill william comptonTalk 21:08, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I believe this article meets all the criteria. I've worked extensively on this. I will endeavour to answer any queries, concerns and comments. Thank you for your attention to this nomination. — Bill william comptonTalk 21:08, 2 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 10:01, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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  • "The series ... " repeated consecutive sentences.
Done
  • "a variety of different awards" don't think you need both "variety" and "different" here.
Done
  • "three Saturn Awards" reads a little odd as these were simply nominations.
Done
  • USEng article so stick with "honors".
Done
  • Don't repeat first names of actors you've already fully named.
Done
  • "To date..." Try "As of November 2012"
Done
  • Infobox -> Awards & Nominations -> Awards & nominations.
Done
  • Caption is a complete sentence so needs a full stop.
Done
  • "American Latino Media Arts Award, commonly known as the ALMA Award,..." sentence should start with a "The..."
Done
  • USEng, "recognising" should take a z.
Done
  • "of Mexican descent" I would have commas before and after this clause.
Done
  • Don't think you need wikilinks in the table captions.
Done
  • Ref -> Ref(s).
Done
  • Would prefer to see ref col centred.
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  • Don't like blank cells when the item nominated is The Vampire Diaries.
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  • What is the logic behind the order of these nominations? Should be alphabetical or notability or something, looks random right now.
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  • "that honours the year's biggest achievements in music, films, sports, television, fashion, and more" reads like a quote, if it is a quote then put it in "quotes", if not, reword it so it doesn't read like a piece of an advert.
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  • "The Vampire Diaries has received total twenty-nine nominations." grammar fail.
Done
  • Refs should be in numerical order.
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  • "recognises " top young artists", " remove space before "top" and again, check USEng is used throughout.
Done
  • Avoid SHOUTING in the reference titles.
Done

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:56, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments. — Bill william comptonTalk 13:08, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from TBrandley (talk) 15:11, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
Done
  • "The series ... " repeated consecutive sentence openers.
Done
Done
  • "awards including" missing comma after awards
Done
  • "has been nominated for 58 awards and has won 22" to "has been nominated for 58 awards, having won 22"
Done
  • The second row/column thing in the first "Alma Awards" is missing ! scope="row", see WP:ACCESS
You took care of this, I guess.
  • Not keen over the whitespace in "Youth Rock Awards", can the image be shortened or something
Done
  • See also links not needed. If they were, remember the TV show should be in italics
Done
  • Don't use {{cite web}} for external links
Done

TBrandley 15:30, 6 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Tate. — Bill william comptonTalk 04:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on all criteria. TBrandley (what's up) 18:58, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, good referencing, just a caveat that hopefully the nominator and/or other interested users will update the "pending" entries over time. :) — Cirt (talk) 06:15, 8 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Crisco 1492 (talk)
;Comments from Crisco 1492
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  • The cast of the show has received most honors, with three lead protagonists—Dobrev, Wesley and Salvatore—receiving the most nominations. - This whole sentence feels awkward. Perhaps just "The three lead protagonists—Dobrev, Wesley and Salvatore—have received the most nominations"
Done
  • for her role as Elena Gilbert - Feels redundant (you say who she played above)
Done
  • four Teen Choice Awards for TV Breakout Star (Female) (in 2010) and TV Actress (Fantasy/Sci-Fi) (in 2010, 2011 and 2012), People's Choice Award for Favourite TV Drama Actress and the Young Hollywood Award (Making Their Mark). - I'd go with simply "four Teen Choice Awards, a People's Choice Award, and the Young Hollywood Award" and leave the specifics for the table. I'm reading the first bit as "four Teen Choice Awards for TV Breakout Star (Female)" and not "four Teen Choice Awards, for TV Breakout Star (Female) ...".
Done
  • receiving twelve nominations - I see a joint nomination too. That would be thirteen
Done
  • All images look okay (no action required)
  • What's with repetitively linking cast in different tables, but linking them only once in single tables?
For navigational purpose and this format is used by other featured lists in a same category. Moreover, linking each entry in a same table would be WP:OVERLINKING.
  • I've copyedited, be sure to double check. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:53, 11 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Crisco, you're always a real help. — Bill william comptonTalk 06:35, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on prose and images. Solid list. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:43, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 23:33, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Source comments –
  • What makes Groucho Reviews (ref 2) a reliable source?
Replaced with more reliable sources.
  • What makes Wet Paint Entertainment (refs 3, 10, and 29) reliable?
No reason to doubt. Wetpaint is a notable and reliable source.
I looked at our article on the subject and it appears that Wetpaint accepts user-submitted content. This makes me very uncertain that it is a reliable source, as we usually don't consider user-submitted content like wikis to be reliable enough. Surely the Teen Choice Awards and Do Something Awards have more reliable alternative sources avaliable? Giants2008 (Talk) 23:17, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, and done. — Bill william comptonTalk 06:31, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • What makes Collider (refs 20–24) reliable?
Replaced with the Saturn Award's sources.
  • Same for tvfanatic.com (ref 26).
Replaced with a more reliable source.
  • The Wet Paint and All Voices refs have the publishers formatted inconsistently, which should be corrected. Giants2008 (Talk) 16:24, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done – formatted all sources in a consistent manner. — Bill william comptonTalk 11:43, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ref 20 has a Saturn Awards in the publisher, while the other four refs from that site don't. That's a new inconsistency that should be addressed. Giants2008 (Talk) 23:17, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Done. — Bill william comptonTalk 06:31, 27 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


  • Oppose? to be honest, it is not very clear to me that this list deserves to be a stand-alone one. Essentially asides from PCA, TCA and Saturn, all the other awards are minor at best. And of these 3 only the Saturn one is actually prestigious. Even then, if only the 3 are kept, this list can easily be incorporated into the main series article, at least for the time being. Nergaal (talk) 09:25, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't know there was any criterion for "prestigiousness". This is very subjective. I consider every notable (large media coverage and being covered by multiple reliable primary and secondary sources) award prestigious, for you only Saturn Award crosses this threshold and perhaps for someone only EGOT are prestigious. List (including accompanying prose) is big enough to be accommodated in the main article. — Bill william comptonTalk 14:58, 30 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There isn't a criterion for prestigiousness. It's simply Nergaal's opinion that some awards are more important than others unless referenced. I see no issue with this, all lists of this type include nominations from every award the film/tv show was nominated for. We don't exclude based on some sense of one being more important than the other. Therefore, as I am concerned, the list should not be merged into the parent article as Nergaal states. NapHit (talk) 11:56, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, Nergaal's"personal preference" is really not of any note with regard to the notability of awards. Why on earth he would suggest deleting a massive number of awards and then merging back into the main article is entirely beyond me. This will be a call for Giants2008 unless the nomination drags on a bit, but I will disregard the above "personal" oppose. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:37, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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