Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of counties in Alabama/archive2

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The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 22:54, 6 June 2009 [1].

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List of counties in Alabama

Nominator(s): Geraldk (talk) 01:00, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

• Featured list candidates/List of counties in Alabama/archive1
• Featured list candidates/List of counties in Alabama/archive2

I am nominating this for featured list because it turns out that it really sucks editing Olympic medals tables. Also, this one's ready for FL, newly referenced and fixed up. Tompw, as always, deserves credit for his excellent work on this and other county lists. Geraldk (talk) 01:00, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Comments The lead is too long. This should focus on the counties, not the history of Alabama, so I'd cut most of the first two paragraphs. I don't think I see any other problems. Reywas92^Talk 20:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)

Support Lead looks good now! Reywas92^Talk 19:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Crzycheetah

Comments/Questions Could you get rid of the parentheses in the second sentence? I'd like to see a sentence explaining for non-Americans what the word county means. mi² => sq mi (both in the lead and in the table) The (XXZ999Z is followed by XXA0A0A) part should be written in a sentence. I am also more inclined into combining the first two paragraphs. Shouldn't this website be a reference for the license numbers? I don't know maybe it's temporary, but the Alabama QuickFacts from the US Census Bureau doesn't work. All people from "Etymology" have dates, but John G. Cullmann, why? Citation #10 is really a note, shouldn't it be presented as such? Is the "formed from" part really necessary? --Crzycheetah 07:00, 23 May 2009 (UTC) Support I'd just delink those landowners in the second table as non-notable, but it's no big deal.--Crzycheetah 04:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC) Just fyi, out of town for the weekend with limited computer access. Will address all comments and concerns by late Monday evening or Tuesday. Geraldk (talk) 13:28, 23 May 2009 (UTC) I believe I've incorporated all comments. With the lead, I tried to limit the discussion to anything related to county formation, avoiding the more general historical information. Thanks both for useful comments. Geraldk (talk) 00:44, 26 May 2009 (UTC) Strong Oppose The whole "Formed from" column is unsourced. The reference you cited does not state anything related to "parent" counties.--Crzycheetah 22:07, 4 June 2009 (UTC) Searching for replacement. Give me a couple days. My apologies - missed that completely. Geraldk (talk) 23:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC) Fixed. Didn't need a couple of days after all. Glad I was checking my watchlist form the library. Found a source that includes all the information on formation (and also could have been used for a number of the other parts of the table). My apologies again. That's something I should have caught before nomination. Geraldk (talk) 23:36, 4 June 2009 (UTC) Is this the book? If so, I can't find any info there, can you mention the page number for one county at least?--Crzycheetah 03:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

• Support Back to support! I found the book's first pages.--Crzycheetah 04:11, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) "The U.S. state of Alabama has sixty-seven counties." "sixty-seven"--67 (per WP:MOSNUM) "The land enclosed by the present state borders was joined to the United States of America piecemeal." Sorry if I'm being dense, but what does "piecemeal" mean here? "West Florida became a possession of Spain" A more specific action is needed here (e.g. captured or sold to). I don't think West Florida just turned into a territory of Spain. "divisions which have survived to the present"-->divisions that have survived to the present "By 1830 there were 36, with Indians still occupying land in northeast and far western Alabama." The noun + -ing structure ("Indians ... occupying") is ungrammatical; see this tutorial on how to fix it. "Alabama's sixty-seven counties"-->Alabama's 67 counties "standard automobile license plates bearing a one- or two-digit number "-->standard automobile license plates that bears a one- or two-digit number "The Federal Information Processing Standard (FIPS) code, which is used by the United States government to uniquely identify counties" Link County seat in the table. "The FIPS code links in the table point to U. S. Census "quick facts" pages for each county." I'd rather that this be a footnote, but it's not a pressing issue. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC) Done and done. I left in the FIPS code line because I feel it's more useful to the reader as a part of the lead than a note, simply because navigation would require that the reader link to the note, link back, then click the external link. But if you feel it's essential, let me know. Took care of the italics in the refs, though that was being caused by the cite web template I use from Wikipedia:Citation templates. And thanks for the link to the editing exercises. That page is very useful. Very much appreciate the review. Geraldk (talk) 17:38, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 13:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

• Nothing in the refs should be italicized. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Comment I think List of Alabama county name etymologies can and should be merged into this list. I doubt anything needs to be done, just redirect it. Reywas92^Talk 16:27, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Merged. Thanks for the suggestion. Geraldk (talk) 18:21, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

• Comment -- The only thing that stands out is whether the lead image can be decreased because there is some whitespace left in the lead between it and the TOC table. In addition, a citation may be needed for the note.--Truco 18:40, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Working on finding a way to get the size reduced. Also, in searching for the reference for the note, found a source which actually does give a death date for the Colbert brothers, so the note is moot and I'm updating the two articles. Thanks for the suggestions. Geraldk (talk) 18:21, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Reduced the size of the template slightly. Geraldk (talk) 18:25, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

• Support -- Meets WP:WIAFL.--Truco 02:17, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

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