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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 22:00, 8 February 2011 [1].

List of demolished places of worship in Brighton and Hove[edit]

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Nominator(s): Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:36, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is a companion list to the longer established List of places of worship in Brighton and Hove. Having reviewed the sources on several occasions, I am confident that I have found every former, now-demolished place of worship in the city (even the really obscure ones, and there are a few of those). Each is given a comprehensive summary "blurb". None have separate articles, but in my view there is not really enough material to produce a standalone article about any of them – and in any case I would argue that the notability threshold would have to be higher for a building that is no longer is existence. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 18:36, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Suggestion: I don't like the table very much. My suggestions:
    1. Replace the table with mine in my sandbox or
    2. Keep the tables but place the pics besides the table to the right.

I prefer suggestion number one. Remember it is just a suggestion :). Regards.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 11:46, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately #1 doesn't like my screen resolution or something: it has made the table about six times wider than the screen, so I have to scroll across a very long way to get to the end. On #2: since there are few relevant pictures for this list, I deliberately placed them throughout the first three paragraphs to break up the walls of text. Hope that sounds reasonable. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 12:05, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It might be useful to note the width in the table in his sandbox is 550%. Afro (Talk) 13:54, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Mh, my screen shows it normally. If it is so, then it shouldn't be replaced. But I don't like the space right beside of the table. Has anyone a suggestion how to delete this space? The list is very good, but triffles like this space might be improved, if it is possible. Regards.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 17:35, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'll need help/advice with this from others who have different screen settings, as everything looks completely "correct" on my home and work computers (I use IE8 and IE6 respectively). Hopefully there might be a solution that accommodates all variants. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 19:29, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments nice list.
  • "The city was granted that status in 2000 " slightly confusing reading. I had to click the link to understand the sentence...
→Now reworded, hopefully a bit clearer. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • " the fashionable" is that a fact? Is it referenced?
→Refs now added, also for Hove's mostly Victorian residential status. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Both places ... had..." reads quite colloquially to me. Could we "elegantise" this?
→I've rewritten the whole sentence. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not 100% convinced you need to link all of "More than 150 of these survive" - perhaps just link "survive"? Although it's not a big deal by any means.
→I've cut down the link to just "survive". Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "one in particular survived" always interested in the "in particular" thing. What does that add?
→Removed. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Perhaps link pew for non-experts.
→Linked. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not keen on whole sentences in parentheses, not sure I see the point...! If it's a footnote, make it so..
→Probably pertinent enough to stay in the body of the text rather than be put in a note, so I have removed the parentheses. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Six of the 11 Wagner" just say eleven here for MOS consistency.
→Done. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "a former Urban District " just "urban district" would be fine.
→Done. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do you really need to relink Hove in the displaced congregations section?
→Unlinked. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and (because of the Congregational–Presbyterian merger) surplus to" replace parentheses with commas here.
→Done, but I have replaced a comma earlier in the sentence with a semicolon in case there is comma overload. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Consider linking Mass for non-experts.
→First instance linked. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:41, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments and observations; changes are highlighted in this diff. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • On my browser the images squash the main list up a bit.
→In reference to my note above, I'll see if anybody can suggest anything to improve the layout. Is it happening just in the Displaced Congregations paragraph, or in all three paragraphs where there are images? Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:25, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm using horizontal resolution of around 1050 pixels, it's probably because of the Christ the King church image which ends up leaking over and squishing the table up. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:29, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I;ve taken out the Circus Street Market pic from above it, which should give more room in that paragraph. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 19:38, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Bingo. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:40, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support happy now, very nice piece of work. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:40, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Is it really necessary to link the c. (circa) so much? Anyway, I support this. It is really sad that there are no pics with licenses :/. Regards.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 17:07, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Courcelles 20:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
*Comments
How confident are we that this is a complete list? Is there a source for the 38 number, or is that arrived at by counting the items on the list?
"knocked down" is rather informal language for an encyclopaedia.
I think all of these are places of Christian worship. Is that worth pointing out?

Courcelles 19:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments Courcelles;

→There is no single definitive source for the total number of demolished churches; the 38 is reached by counting, so I could replace with e.g. "more than 30" if preferred (I have done this for now).
→All examples changed (although difficult to find varied wording!).
→All were indeed Christian churches; B&H's places of worship have always been almost exclusively Christian (today, of about 160 places of worship, the only exceptions are two mosques); I have altered a sentence in the lead anyway, though. Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 20:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support AS to the "more than 30", it's ugly, but until a number can be sourced, better not to assume everything that could be listed is listed. Courcelles 20:07, 7 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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