Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of emperors of the Qing dynasty/archive1

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The list was withdrawn by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 12 December 2022 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of emperors of the Qing dynasty[edit]

Featured list candidates/List of emperors of the Qing dynasty/archive1

Nominator(s): TomMasterReal (talk) 03:20, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I do not see many problems with this list, it is an okay list of all the Emperors of the Qing Dynasty.

Drive-by comment: The table formatting is a mess. Section headings shouldn't be inserted directly into the table (and references shouldn't be put in section headings), and row/column scopes are missing. I would suggest MOS:TABLE and MOS:DTAB for advice on how to fix it. RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:40, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - as far as I can see the nominator has never edited the article. @TomMasterReal: did you consult with regular editors of the list before nomination as per the instruction above.....? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:43, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I did not. I could not think of anything to edit on the article. All of the information outside the table seemed to be fine. I just edited a fact now, and will try to fix the formatting. TomMasterReal (talk) 13:23, 1 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - I fixed the table formatting things. TomMasterReal (talk) 20:12, 2 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments[edit]

Nothing in the lead is sourced
Link era name in the lead
"which was tampered and perhaps even forged by its beneficiaries" => "which was tampered with and perhaps even forged by its beneficiaries"
"The date that appears under "Dates of reign"" - the column is not titled that
"The number of years indicated in the same column" - there is no number of years in the column
Why are there two values in English characters for each emperor in the last three columns?
Footnotes a and b are identical so should be combined
Refs 12, 24 and 25 point to a source tagged as "Fang 1943b" but no source is tagged that way, so the refs don't work -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:23, 3 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

For the last three columns, the last row are their Manchu names I think, as I know Abkai fulingga is the Manchu name of Nurhaci
Sorry about the number of years, that was from the old table.
I will try to fix the other points you have made.

TomMasterReal (talk) 03:11, 4 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments I don't know if I did the citations right, please tell me if I did it wrong, because the only reliable source I could find for the era names, and temple names were from the Palace Museum in Beijing. TomMasterReal (talk) 15:17, 5 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The citations you added are bare URLs, they need to be properly formatted. They are also identical, so can be combined into one ref. Additionally, I wasn't querying the sourcing on those columns so much as the fact that there's no explanation above the table as to why there are multiple names shown for each emperor in each column........ -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:49, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Okay. TomMasterReal (talk) 17:28, 7 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Okay, so I removed the citation, since I'm bad at them, and added the explainations. TomMasterReal (talk) 16:16, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose and suggest withdrawal, no evidence that the nominator discussed the list with the regular editors of the page. The recent changes, done after the FLC nomination have removed 13 explanatory notes and numerous citations without explanation. I have restored the status quo, in light of this. This is not how FLC is done and this nomination should be withdrawn. Aza24 (talk) 21:21, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'm fine with that. TomMasterReal (talk) 21:49, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:08, 11 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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