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List of international cricket centuries by Joe Root[edit]

List of international cricket centuries by Joe Root (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Gihan Jayaweera, Vensatry

A part of the "fab four", Joe Root might well end up as England's greatest ever batsman. At just under 28, he already has 26 centuries to his name (he has the most centuries for England in ODIs). Gihan Jayaweera laid the groundwork – happy to include him as a co-nom. This is my first FLC in nine months; a thorough review would be much appreciated. —Vensatry (talk) 19:37, 8 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from TompaDompa (talk) 20:06, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  1. Test cricket and One Day International should be linked in the first paragraph.
  2. It looks a bit weird with a very short first paragraph followed by two much longer ones.
  3. Ashes links to a disambiguation.
  4. Root went on to sore three centuries has a typo ("sore").
  5. Root has scored centuries against all Test-playing nations, with the exception of Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Ireland and Zimbabwe. – that's a pretty extensive exception. I'd instead write "against X out of Y Test-playing nations" before listing the exceptions.
  6. The key should not have its own section.
    • Is there a rule? —Vensatry (talk) 11:46, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Not as far as I know, but it has a negative impact on the visual appeal. TompaDompa (talk) 13:32, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  7. The key is not consistent in its use of periods.
  8. Much of the information in the key is unnecessary in that format. All the abbreviations in the table should be explained with the {{Abbr}} template instead (and have links where appropriate). Only the symbols need to be explained in the key.
    • Not sure what the problem is. Can you be more specific? —Vensatry (talk) 11:46, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • The key is a lot longer than it needs to be. For instance: instead of explaining "H/A/N" in the key, that header cell in the table should read H/A/N, i.e. {{abbr|H/A/N|Home, Away, or Neutral venue}} (or something similar). The only things that should be explained in the key are the meaning of the symbols (asterisk for not out, dagger for man of the match, and double dagger for captain). An overly long key impedes readability significantly. TompaDompa (talk) 13:32, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  9. "No." should use the {{abbr}} template per MOS:NUMERO.
  10. The reference column header in the ODI table should be formatted like the one in the Test table, using the {{abbr}} template.

TompaDompa (talk) 10:34, 9 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TompaDompa: Thanks for the review. —Vensatry (talk) 17:14, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support TompaDompa (talk) 20:06, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Sagavaj
  • In second para, you mentioned "Root has scored centuries against seven of the twelve Test-playing nations". As of when?
  • Some scores were mentioned in the lead. Though references were present in the table, I think you can keep same references even in the lead. e.g., 254 against pakistan
  • Though you mentioned 90* as highest score in T20 and is implied that he didn't score a century yet, I think it is still better to mention it somewhere.

I didn't find much and I hope these will help. Sagavaj (talk) 22:34, 12 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Sagavaj: Fixed all. Thanks for the comments —Vensatry (talk) 04:00, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support Sagavaj (talk) 11:43, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • "Root has scored centuries against seven of the twelve Test-playing nations" - I would change this to "Root has scored centuries against seven of the other eleven Test-playing nations", as he obviously can't score one against England
  • Note a: "The exceptions include Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Ireland and Zimbabwe." - change to "The exceptions are Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Ireland and Zimbabwe." The use of the word "include" implies that there are other exceptions.
  • That's all I've got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:47, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: Good catches, as ever. :) Thanks —Vensatry (talk) 16:10, 14 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude: Thanks for the review. —Vensatry (talk) 19:52, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 19:16, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Comments welcome back!
  • "hundred or more" shouldn't that really be "100 or more" or "one hundred or more" or "a hundred or more"?
  • "Root made his international debut" which format? I presume Test, but it should be stated.
  • "at the Headingley Cricket Ground. " we'd normally just say "at Headingley."
  • "youngest English player" stick with "England" rather than "English" given the vast array of non-English England players we've had...
  • "an Ashes century at Lord's when he made 180 in the second Test of the 2013 Ashes series." try to avoid the repetition of Ashes here.
  • Next two consecutive sentences start "His performance..." which is repetitive.
  • " by the Wisden Cricketers' Almanack in " once again, I'd drop "the" here.
  • "Root went on to score three centuries .." three more or three in total, so two more? A little unclear.
  • "scored at 12 different venues—have come against six different " twelve (MOS:NUM "cats and dogs").
  • Might be worth mentioning England don't lose Test matches when Root tons up.
"Facts" which are not unlikely to change hardly add any value to the article.
  • Consistent date formats in the refs please.
  • No spaced hyphens (ref 3 title)

The Rambling Man (talk) 20:18, 22 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@The Rambling Man: Fixed the rest. Thanks —Vensatry (talk) 17:39, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed; promoting. --PresN 01:51, 26 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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