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The list was not promoted by Matthewedwards 01:50, 24 August 2009 [1].

List of international cricket centuries by Virender Sehwag[edit]

Nominator(s): Abeer.ag (talk) 13:38, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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I am nominating this for featured list because it is comprhensive, and meets WP:FLC. Abeer.ag (talk) 13:38, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Diaa
Comments by Diaa abdelmoneim
Lead
  • There are many problems with the prose being not clear and not easy for readers uninformed of Cricket. The following are some of the problems I see with the lead:
  • "He has scored centuries (100 or more runs)" wikilink runs
    • Done
  • "on 15 occasions in Test cricket and in 11 One Day International (ODI) matches." How many centuries did he score? 26? Use either "on" or "in" to describe the occurrences, or skip it "He has scored centuries (100 or more runs) in 15 Test cricket and 11 One Day International (ODI) matches"
    • This sounds a bit clunky; I used the version I have here in another Featured List as well.
  • "He is yet to score a century in a Twenty20 international." Is this a prediction? If so remove it till it happens and specify which Twent20 international.
    • Its not a prediction; I'm just saying that he hasn't yet scord a century in that format of the game.
  • "scored centuries against all the Test-cricket playing nations" change it to list all the teams that he actually won against
    • There are eight of them; this is easier syntax and tells you of the magnitude of his achievement. The list is easily accessible with the Wikilink.
  • "He is seventh on the list of leading Test century makers for India" It should be "of India"
    • I believe the current version is correct.
  • "He made a century on Test debut" I don't understand this sentence.
    • "on test debut" is a phrase commonly used in cricket. It means a player's first game. There are no relevant Wikilinks.
  • "scoring 105 against South Africa in 2001" scoring 105 "runs" ?
    • Changed
  • "His centuries have been scored in thirteen cricket grounds" should be "on thirteen"
    • "in" is correct, I believe.
  • "He has ended up in the nineties on three occasions." needs clarification.
    • Changed.
  • "He has scored five scores" repetition isn't clear.
    • Changed.
  • "of 200 or more" should have runs.
    • Changed.
  • "the most by an Indian opener" what do u mean here by opener?
    • Linked.
  • Wikilink Multan and Chennai in the lead.
    • Done.
  • "He is the third batsman to score two triple centuries, alongside Sir Donald Bradman and Brian Lara." should be after "Sehwag is the only Indian to have scored a triple century (300 or more runs), and has done so twice".
    • Done.
  • "His last 11 hundreds have been scores of 150 or greater, a record for the most consecutive hundreds of over 150." Do u mean by hundreds centuries?
    • Changed
Images
  • The lead image is too big and I suggest cropping it to only contain his face, removing his hand.
    • Made smaller instead.
  • The caption of the lead image isn't relevant to the contents of the image, when was this image taken and where is he. You also need to add an alternative text to the image using "|alt="Description of image""
    • As per WP:CAPTION, it is not really necessary; its not relevant to the article where the image was taken.
  • The image of MA Chidambaram Stadium should be cropped because the light is very distracting.
    • I believe the Floodlight to be an integral part of the cricket ground.
  • Add an alternative text to every thumbnail image you used.
    • Already Done.
List
  • Spell out "Pos." , "Inn." and "S/R"
    • The columns would become too wide if I were to do that; they have been clearly specified in the Key.
  • The Date should be a column next to No.
    • The score is more relevant than anything else; hence, it is next to the no.

Thank You for your comments. Abeer.ag (talk) 06:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support, final comment is that the first paragraph in the lead is only two sentences, could u expand to three or four sentences for style purposes?--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 06:36, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • There isn't any general content left to add (only test n odi specific). btw, just below this comnt an itch was noted, consecutive lines begin with "He, His". Hometech (talk) 19:41, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • Space needed after reference 5.
    • Done.
  • Remove the spaces around the dash in the second paragraph.
    • Done.
  • Many sentences start with "He" or "His". Is it possible to change a few to provide for a more engaging lead? Even using his last name would be better.
    • Hmm.. I tried to do it but failed miserably. Any suggestions?
  • Lots of whitespace between the second and third paragraphs.
  • Photo in the lead needs spaces after commas in the alt text, which also has a typo: "backgrounf."
    • Done
  • Photo of Queens Park Oval: Comma after Port of Spain in caption. Alt text reads: "A stadium with a people playing...". Remove second "a".
    • Done
  • What makes http://www.cricbuzz.com/ a reliable source?
    • Replaced
  • Bullet needed before the external link. Giants2008 (17–14) 00:23, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done

Thank you for your comments. Abeer.ag (talk) 06:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) Much improved from the last such list submitted here.

  • "but is yet to score a century in a Twenty20 international." Then why mention it?
    • There are three major formats in cricket: Test, ODI and T20.Just to be thorough, I mentioned it.
  • "Out of these centuries" "out" is an unnecessary word.
    • Changed
  • Can you put "Key" in bold?
    • Done
  • "The innings in the Test match." No period at the end.
    • Changed
  • "Remained not out." Remove period at the end.
    • Changed
  • "The Queen's Park Oval in the Port of Spain where Sehwag made a century in the 2007 World Cup" Comma after "Spain".
    • Changed
  • There's probably a good reason for this but why don't you list strike rate for Test?
    • SRs are somewhat irrelevant in Test, since matches last five days and the rate of scoring isn't that important.
  • ODI centuries, No. 2 – Date should be September 22, 2002, not
    • Changed
  • ODI centuries, No. 10 – strike rate should be 128.8, not 121.8
    • Changed
  • List all strike rates with two decimal places. If it is rounded to the tenths place, add a trailing 0 to the end.
    • Done
  • Is there a ref for footnote 7?
    • Ref 8.
      • It looks uncited as is, though. Suggest putting it in a separate section and inline citing it. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:28, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dabomb87 (talk) 02:54, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 02:54, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank You for your comments. Abeer.ag (talk) 06:46, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note FLC is currently short of reviewers; please consider reviewing one or more on the nomination list if you have not already (this message is being posted to all running FLCs). Dabomb87 (talk) 23:22, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What other records are possible in cricket? Golf or baskt exampls are pointless. Hometech (talk) 12:04, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The only other significant achievements for batsman would be Man of the Match awards.. that list would be largely redundant, since most of his MoM awards would be in these games only. Abeer.ag (talk) 12:32, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There's a lot of info in the "Achievements" section in his main article. It is usually discouraged to have lists in biographical articles, especially long tables; therefore, if a list of achievements by Virender Sehwag is created with all these centuries along with all that stuff in the Virender Sehwag#Achievements section, the main article will look a lot better.--Crzycheetah 16:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I've incorporated mos of the things in the "Records" section. The awards and man of the series lists are definitely notable enough to be in the main article. Abeer.ag (talk) 07:00, 18 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I never said they're not notable. I am saying those tables are long and make that article look like a list; thus, they should be split off. List of career achievements by Virender Sehwag can contain these tables along with the tables in the List of international cricket centuries by Virender Seehwag. --Crzycheetah 01:18, 19 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Article looks good to me just a few minor quibbles with the references.

  • On Ref 13 the publisher is stats.cricinfo.com yet plenty of other refs with the prefix stats.cricinfo.com simply use Cricinfo as publisher, be consistent.
    • Changed
  • Ref 3 and ref 4 are similar but on 3 a mdash and colon are used, on 4 two ndashes, be consistent.
    • Umm.. I don't understand. Could you please make the change.
      • Done
  • I realise it is the headings on the window but placing Cricinfo Statsguru in the middle of the reference title seems slightly odd. Cricinfo is already the publisher so does it need repeating. Take ref 6 as an example and I'd prefer to see a more logical order of 'Statsguru - Test matches - Batting record - Double centuries by Indian openers'.
    • Changed some- is this what you meant?
      • Partly. I'd prefer to see the Statsguru part at the start like ref 16.
  • As you use the date format of 'Month Date, Year' repeating that for the references would be better than YY-MM-DD.
    • I believe there's a script that does this. Do you know where it is?
      • I don't know anything about scripts, sorry.
  • On the Ref 7 issue that Dabomb mentioned, is there even a need to mention Chappell and Samaraweera, if they were all level on two or three then I could understand it but Sehwag is ahead of them. You don't mention who's second in terms of fastest triple hundred so it seems slightly odd to have that ref.
    • It just seemed interesting...
      • Fair enough, I was just offering a solution to a outstanding issue which may be stopping Dabomb from supporting. --Jpeeling (talk) 09:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nothing to do with refs but on the fourth image you use vs. which looks a bit amateurish to me, change to versus or against.
    • Done

--Jpeeling (talk) 22:40, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your comments. Abeer.ag (talk) 07:06, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


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