Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of marches composed by John Philip Sousa/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:27, 12 July 2021 (UTC) [1].[reply]
List of marches composed by John Philip Sousa[edit]
List of marches composed by John Philip Sousa (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 08:30, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I am nominating this for featured list because it is a comprehensive list which contains almost everything related to the topic, including title and year of composition, brief description, audio files and images. It was originally a redirect page, redirecting to List of compositions by John Philip Sousa, but I think the topic deserved its separate list. It is a long list consisting of 136 marches Sousa composed. Marches and description is suitably cited. Appreciate any feedback. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 08:30, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Aoba47[edit]
Resolved comments from Aoba47 (talk) 03:26, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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I received a request on my talk page to help with this FLC. While I have done work on music articles and lists, this is outside of my comfort zone, but hopefully, that will help to provide an outside perspective. My comments are below:
I hope my comments are at least somewhat helpful. I have focused on the prose and I will leave the sources and images to another reviewer. I hope you have a great week! Aoba47 (talk) 21:29, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- Thank you for responding to everything. I support the list for promotion. Best of luck with this FLC! Aoba47 (talk) 03:26, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from ChrisTheDude[edit]
Resolved comments from ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:51, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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- Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:51, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)[edit]
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- Looks good! --PresN 03:42, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Image review[edit]
- File:"University of Illinois March" Cover.jpg Needs PD-US rationale. Also, who was the artist of the cover? The copyright would probably be held by the artist.
- Other images look OK (t · c) buidhe 09:51, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi @Buidhe: Thanks for you Image Review. File:"University of Illinois March" Cover.jpg does needs a Public Domain tag, but I am not able to determine whether to use {{PD-US-not renewed}} or {{PD-US-no notice}}. The source (1) doesn't mention the artist of the cover. I removed the image from the list as except it, all other seems fine. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 10:22, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review[edit]
Will I was going to leave some non-source comments but there's really nothing to say. My only non-source quibble would be this:
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- Everything looks good, pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 21:04, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from TRM[edit]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 17:23, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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In the image caption, I'm not sure why "Music" is capitalised?
That's all I have on a quick pass. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 10:04, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
- Hi @The Rambling Man: Thanks a lot for your comments. I have tried to fix most of them in these edits. Just not sure whether to use en-dash for missing audio files or not. Still, please review my edits and let me know if I missed something. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:11, 23 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @The Rambling Man: Also, I just found out that "List of national anthems", which is a FL also has a few missing audio files, but has not added any dashes in those cells. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:22, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not important. Please just fill in the empty cells otherwise it looks like you've just forgotten. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 16:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @The Rambling Man: Done—I have added en dashes in the empty cells in this edit. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:47, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not important. Please just fill in the empty cells otherwise it looks like you've just forgotten. The Rambling Man (Stay alert! Control the virus! Save lives!!!!) 16:34, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @The Rambling Man: Also, I just found out that "List of national anthems", which is a FL also has a few missing audio files, but has not added any dashes in those cells. Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 16:22, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@WP:FLC director and delegates: Just a note that I have responded to everything. "Is there a consensus for promotion of this nomination?" Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:07, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Two supports is a little light for promotion. We could use at least one more good review here. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:08, 3 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- @Giants2008: Not rushing, but requesting you to take a second look as we have two more detailed reviews, which are resolved. Thanks! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:03, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from HAL333[edit]
Resolved comments from ~ HAL333 18:24, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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* References need to be centered.
That's all I got. ~ HAL333 16:34, 4 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- Support ~ HAL333 18:24, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments Support from Tim riley[edit]
Resolved comments from Tim riley talk 17:48, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply] |
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The nominator was kind enough to invite me to comment. I'll do so in detail (if any) after a careful read-through, but from a swift gallop through just now I see a hole in the "University of Nebraska" row, where words have, I think, been accidentally deleted. More anon. Tim riley talk 18:43, 7 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You may regret asking for my comments. Two general points stand out. First you are inconsistent with definite and indefinite articles. In a list of this sort, as opposed to a piece of prose, it would probably be OK to omit the article in e.g. "Evangeline Booth of Salvation Army. It premiered in New York on fiftieth anniversary of Salvation Army", or "on joint request of" if you omitted definite articles consistently, but you don't – we have, e.g. "the Smithsonian Institution" It would be best, I think, to include definite and indefinite articles whenever normal prose usage would require them. The second point is the curious choice of prepositions in connection with "request". You start off in normal English with "Sousa composed this march at the request of a California based drill team" – "at the request of…" is what one would expect to see, but thereafter we have "upon the request of", "upon request of", "on joint request from" and "upon request by", none of which are normal English usage. My recommendation is to change all these to "at the request of". I have picked out the ones I spotted, but there may possibly be some I have missed. Detailed comments:
Apologies for such a long list of quibbles, but you did ask! Tim riley talk 12:46, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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- The point about the 1877 Christian-V-Turk war needs addressing (I think just changing the date to 1878 will do) but that apart I am happy with the article as it now stands and am happy to support promotion to FL. I don't often dabble in FLC, so have refreshed my memory of the criteria, and I think this article meets them. Tim riley talk 17:48, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- I addressed the issue in this edit. Thanks! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 18:02, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The point about the 1877 Christian-V-Turk war needs addressing (I think just changing the date to 1878 will do) but that apart I am happy with the article as it now stands and am happy to support promotion to FL. I don't often dabble in FLC, so have refreshed my memory of the criteria, and I think this article meets them. Tim riley talk 17:48, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment from Smerus[edit]
This looks and reads fine and I would support FL. There is one thing which may be worthy of explanation in a note, if not in the text. You mention that "Review" was his first published march, and that it has the opus number 5. The reader (or anyway this reader) immediately queries, what were opp. 1-4? Were they also marches, which have been lost? Were they a different musical genre? Or do we just not know? A little clarification, even if the answer is that we don't know, would be good. You might also be explicit (if it is indeed the case, as it appears to be) that this is his only work with an opus number (there are no opus numbers at all in the List of compositions by John Philip Sousa). Best, --Smerus (talk) 22:12, 8 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Hi @Smerus: Well, I have removed the mention of Opus number 5 from the list as it may seem a bit confusing. I think opp. 1-4 were probably not known, but the source states that
"It was called Opus 5 and was dedicated to Colonel William G. Moore"
Nevertheless, I have rephrased it. Thanks for your support! Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 04:12, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]- I think that's the simplest answer in the circumstances! I definitely support the article for FL.--Smerus (talk) 09:39, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Closing note: This candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:17, 11 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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