Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of plant genera named for people (Q–Z)/archive1
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List of plant genera named for people (Q–Z) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
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- Nominator(s): - Dank (push to talk) 23:32, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The three other lists in this series have received extensive reviews, and there are no unresolved issues that I know of. There are a lot of pointers to fun history-of-science tales here. Enjoy. Pinging Tim riley, per his request. - Dank (push to talk) 12:11, 25 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support and a few comments from Tim riley
[edit]Precious little from me. My few gleanings:
- I notice that though you give some people's nationalities you are not consistent. I don't mind greatly, but consistency is on the whole a good thing. Why, for instance, is Pierre Ambrunaz Quézel outed as being French, but Edouard Prosper Quesnel, who precedes him, stateless?
- And if you are going to include people's places of origin I think you might decide whether to label those from this sceptred isle as either "English"/"Scottish" on the one hand or just "British" on the other. At present it's rather pot luck.
- You are also – and again I am not objecting vehemently – inconsistent with your indefinite articles: thus, Philippe Sergeant, a French monk and botanist followed by Joseph Serrurier, Dutch doctor.
- Fixed all three, I think. - Dank (push to talk)
- I don't think Berlin should be blue-linked chez Schefflerodendron (WP:OVERLINK, you know).
- The only link I see on Berlin is for Dahlem (Berlin) ... I've changed it to Dahlem, Berlin. - Dank (push to talk)
- Perhaps you should add that Lord Bute was PM of Great Britain. (You tell us where George Washington was president of, after all.)
- Done. - Dank (push to talk)
You will gather from this modest collection of minor quibbles that I can't find anything of consequence to complain about. I have no intention of withholding my support for the elevation of this scholarly article to join its siblings at FL. It seems to me to meet all the criteria, and is a surprisingly good read into the bargain. I doubt if anyone will read it without a smile of recognition at some point or other. Excellent stuff! Tim riley talk 16:19, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The only people I identify as British (Joseph Snowden, Dennis Stanfield, James Tennant and William Treutler) are identified that way in these sources ... and Burkhardt generally will say English or Scottish if she can, so my guess is that she didn't know (and she generally makes an effort to find out). That's not too surprising; many people who named genera gave us no clue at all who they were referring to ... they may have thought it was obvious then, but it's not always obvious now ... and when they did, they sometimes picked people about whom little is now known. The only one of these mentioned in another Wikipedia (Spanish Wikipedia) is Tennant, and he's identified as English there, but I think they mean that he worked in England (at Kew). Similarly, Quesnel is stateless because no state is given in these sources. But I can do more checking if you like. - Dank (push to talk)
- Good God, no! I raised the point for your consideration and you've considered it. Tweak or not, as seems desirable to you. Tim riley talk 18:36, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Kind, supportive, thorough ... just what I expect from a Riley review. Thanks. - Dank (push to talk) 18:24, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- The reviewer reviewed! Thank you for your nice comments. (And while I'm here, Edgar Quinet, in the article, reminds me that my favourite restaurant in all Paris is in the Boulevard Edgar Quinet. I shall raise a glass to your four articles when next there.) Tim riley talk 18:36, 29 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Other reviews
[edit]- Support - I got nothing :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:52, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Source review – Pass
[edit]Comments below. Aza24 (talk) 22:19, 16 August 2021 (UTC) Version reviewed: [2][reply]
- Formatting
- No issues, per usual/past similar lists
- Reliability
- No issues, per usual/past similar lists
- Verifiability
- No issues, per usual/past similar lists
- Heh, rather routine now, isn't it? Pass for source review. Aza24 (talk) 22:19, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Boring is good. - Dank (push to talk) 22:42, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comments by Dudley
[edit]- namesakes. I don't think this word is strictly correct. OED says namesake means the same name, not a revised form of a name.
- Partially done in these edits. That's probably as far as I can go, but I'm open to giving it more thought. (I left "namesake" in the column heading; in such a tight space, I can't think of an acceptable substitute, and the word seems to be supported by other dictionaries.) - Dank (push to talk)
- What tight space? Why not 'Person genus is named after'? This is clearer than namesake. Dudley Miles (talk) 16:51, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. No objection, but I need more input on this. - Dank (push to talk) 18:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- In modern works, would it be helpful to distinguish between books and websites?
- I've substituted "Plants of the World Online" for the two citations to "POWO".
- A first rate list. Dudley Miles (talk) 09:46, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. Good to see you here! - Dank (push to talk) 15:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Dudley Miles (talk) 19:36, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Dudley Miles, that doesn't work as well in the next list, and I'd like to be consistent, so I'm going with "Person
referencedhonored" (American spelling), if that works for you. - Dank (push to talk) 20:35, 2 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Promoting. --PresN 14:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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