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The list was promoted by Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:32, 18 June 2015 [1].

P. G. Wodehouse bibliography[edit]

P. G. Wodehouse bibliography (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): SchroCat (talk) 07:59, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

P.G. Wodehouse was a prolific author whose career stretched from his 1902 novel The Pothunters, through over ninety books to his unfinished 1977 novel Sunset at Blandings. In-between he brought, and still brings, joy to millions through the stories of Bertie Wooster and his valet, Jeeves; the immaculate and loquacious Psmith; Lord Emsworth and the Blandings Castle set; the disaster-prone opportunist Ukridge, the Oldest Member, with stories about golf; and Mr Mulliner, with stories about many things from film studios to the Church of England.

This page has been reworked recently to bring it up to scratch and all comments are welcome. – SchroCat (talk) 07:59, 3 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 07:52, 10 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments a quick run-through since you asked so nicely...!
  • Hmmm... that's from the {{post-nominals}} template. I'll look into the documentation and see if there is a reason. - SchroCat (talk) 09:02, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • More quickly than I thought, there is no good answer! I've tweaked the link for a workaround. - SchroCat (talk) 09:12, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "to which he remained devoted all his life he was" I think it would read marginally better if there was a comma after "life".
  • "and his early novels were mostly school stories" this reads oddly to me, kind of tagged on.
  • "novel and story writing" I would have thought these should be hyphenated, i.e. novel- and story-writing career...
  • I'm going to hate myself but wouldn't "who became familiar to the public" be better as "with whom the public became familiar"?
  • Two links to A Gentlemen of Leisure could be confusing, perhaps you could clarify that one links to a film?
  • "and then for RKO Pictures" worked for?
  • "During the Second World War Wodehouse was captured by the Germans" how did that happen?
  • "In chronological order" -> Initially in chronological...
  • (All London) is probably best incorporated into the hatnote as "All publishers based in London".
  • (New York unless otherwise stated) - I couldn't see any "otherwise stated"s...
  • Be consistent with the full stops in the notes.
  • Plays, initial sort order, the 1911 should come before the August 1911 otherwise you can never sort back to the initial order.

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:02, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Cheers RM, many thanks for the above, which I've followed scrupulously, bar the first point. I'll look into that and see if there is a reason for it. Now sorted! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:12, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Harrias
Comments – because while I probably could just support this straight off, TRM gets agitated about such things! *nudge nudge wink wink* Being honest, most of the issues I found on first read through, TRM has already identified, so what I can see is very very minor.
  • Might it be worth adding (MGM) after Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer. I know you link it, and never refer to them by the abbreviation, but there are plenty of people around who will know them better as MGM than Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer.
  • Given that the "UK title" is the "row scope" column for the Novels list, could it be made slightly wider? At the moment the width seems to diminish its importance.
  • I'll have a look in the morning on a range of screen sizes. I tend to leave the columns to break where they are because there are so many variations in screen size. – SchroCat (talk) 23:09, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Now looked - and I've widened the first column so that none of the titles break onto a second line. The formatting is ignored on some readers (tablets, phones and narrower screens), but there isn't much we can do about that! - SchroCat (talk) 11:50, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Are the non-linked films and plays non-notable? Otherwise there is nothing wrong with red links. I notice they are red linked in the nav box at the bottom.
  • Im not sure they are! (Although that's because I don't know enough about them. I'll copy the red links from the na box so they match, which seems a sensible option. – SchroCat (talk) 22:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the references, I found it slightly confusing that you use "pp. 30–37" (rather than "pp. 30–7") but "pp. 331–33" (rather than "pp. 331–333") And similar later.
  • It shoud never have a single digit as the second number (unless the page is 1-9), but shoud otherwise have either two or three. I go for double dit its in ranges. – SchroCat (talk) 22:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can ref #17 have a full stop at the end, to remain consistent with all the other references?

Harrias talk 20:33, 4 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support With that done, I'm happy to support a top-class list, nice work! Any chance you could take a look at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Wisden Leading Cricketer in the World/archive1 if you get a chance? Harrias talk 16:41, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Cheers Harrias, much appreciated. – SchroCat (talk) 07:50, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support Looks in great shape!♦ Dr. Blofeld 07:54, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Many thanks Doc - much appreciated. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 11:50, 5 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Declaration of interest: I have contributed a handful of words to the page, but I think that so minimal an involvement leaves me free to support in good conscience. This page is just what such a Wikipedia offering should be. Meets the criteria and, what's more, will for years be one of those WP pages that are the default recourse for anyone seeking the information. If ever a Wikipedia editor hit the bullseye and entitled himself to a cigar or coconut according to choice, that editor is SchroCat. – Tim riley talk 22:27, 7 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Many thanks, Tim: your thoughts in the writing process and here are always appreciated! Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 09:36, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Seattle (talk) 17:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Article title spaced at "P. G. Wodehouse" but infobox spaced as "P.G. Wodehouse"
  • In good BrEng there shouldn't be a space (or full stops), but we are forced by the US-centric MoS to have them as such for titles. - SchroCat (talk) 21:06, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • in an arrangement that "helped transform the American musical" of the time. how so?
  • I've added a broader description of what he did that was considered radical. - SchroCat (talk) 08:50, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Vanity Fair should be italicized in the Louder and Funnier row
  • I count 15 scripts instead of 14
  • Done. A few pieces of his work were added later, but I forgot to update the IB. - SchroCat (talk) 07:24, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I count 42 plays instead of 37
  • I count 24 collections instead of 23. Seattle (talk) 19:33, 13 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

All done, bar the Americal musical comment, for which I,need my sources to clarify: I'll do so shortly as I'm away from my books at the moment. Thanks very much for your comments – very much appreciated. Cheers. – SchroCat (talk) 07:24, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hi Seattle, All now done, with the final point (on the Americal musical) now addressed. Thanks agan for your thoughts and comments on this. Ceers - SchroCat (talk) 08:50, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support, a quality list. Seattle (talk) 17:53, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Many thanks Seattle, much appreciated. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 18:57, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Dudley

  • "stories about many things from film studios to the Church of England.[1]" "things" does not sound right to me. How about "subjects".
  • " his script A Gentleman of Leisure " To be a bit pedantic, this links to the novel, which states that he collaborated with another writer to turn it into a play.
  • Quite right - removed link (and in table too) - SchroCat (talk) 07:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Man Upstairs is not school stories.
  • I wish to blame this on my co-nom. I can't, however, as it was my error ad I have no co-nom! De-schooled - SchroCat (talk) 07:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • "No major productions, but produced in the by touring companies" Something gone wrong!
  • My brain and its ability to produce anything but gibberish... - SchroCat (talk) 07:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • No publication details of plays? The ones I have looked at are available on Worldcat.
  • According to David Jasen in his preface to Four Plays, Come on Jeeves toured the English provinces in the summer on 1954 but never made it to London.
  • The Uncollected Wodehouse, edited by Jasen and with a foreword by Muggeridge, was published 1976. Dudley Miles (talk) 17:45, 14 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks Dudley, much appreciated. I'll pull something together for the print editions of the plays in the next day or so. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 07:42, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Dudley Miles, Now added: I think I've got them all, but if there are any others that you know of, I'd be happy to add them. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 19:06, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support. A first rate list. Dudley Miles (talk) 20:32, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Many thanks, Dudley, for your insight here (and at the biographical article too) has proved invaluable. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 20:44, 16 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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