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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 16:36, 11 August 2011 [1].

Simon & Garfunkel discography[edit]

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Nominator(s): ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫Share–a–Power[citation needed] 18:42, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The first nomination failed because Giants and Ramblin' Man were the only two reviewers. I removed the textfile ref, but left the other two, because they satisfy the reliability criteria.♫Greatorangepumpkin♫Share–a–Power[citation needed] 18:42, 25 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from — Legolas (talk2me) 06:00, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments from Legolas2186
  • with the new version of "The Sound of Silence" --> the phrasing does not make it clear what TSOS is. Is it a single from the album or an included music? Consider rephrasing.
  • done, but why if it is already in the singles section below?
    • because a casual reader will be baffled, and has to go down to the singles table, then come back up. Its mis-directing.
      • also done.
  • You dont need to include RIAA within the wikilink. It should be outside it.
  • done
  • This album --> It
  • done
  • three-times multi-platinum what?
  • of course certification, what else?
    • Then please include that word.
      • I did that before your revisit.
  • What is the significance of "I Am a Rock" here in S&G discography? I believe it was Simon's solo release.
  • because it was released one year later from the album Sounds of Silence
  • again three-times multi-platinum.
  • done
  • The hit single --> POV?
  • absolutely not... it was their first number-one single, and it is worth to be named like this.
    • Good, but a song can be hit on many terms, it can be a critical success, or commercial success or both. You need to explain that how was it a "hit".
      • ok I removed it.
  • Consider changing phrases like "This album", does not make a good read.
  • done
  • comma after live album.
  • ehm, this is grammatically incorrect... the first and last segments of this sentence is a main clause, which was split due to a subordinate clause in the middle.
  • Can you use any other color for the box set thread in the infobox? IT just hits the eye too much.
  • i like it like this, and I have always used this color for the box-set thread.
  • done
  • Remove bolding of the album names.
  • no, it's a standard for discographies. Without it looks odd.
    • Take your call, but its over-bolding.
      • I know
  • Generally the native chart of the singer/band comes in the first column of the table. The certifications should not be an exception.
  • is this really mandatory?
    • Yes, it breaks consistency.
      • ok, done
  • done
  • The Concert in Central Park, first appearance of the words CD and CS, they should be appropriately wikilinked. What is CS anyways? Cassette single?
  • done
  • If you are using a bulleted list for the certifications for the albums, you need to use a bullet in singles too, for consistency.
  • done
  • The word "Non-albunm singles" does not need to be italicized, its not referring to any album.
  • done
    • Not done. You made it all small letters, instead of de-italicizing it.
  • In references, all online sources are italicized which should not be. You need to correct them all.
  • done
  • What is the Amazon.com reference validating?
  • the sales?
    • Sorry, not a reliable source for sales.
      • why not?
        • Because Amazon.com editorial reviews are not considered reliable and in high-esteem. There have been previous instances of plagiarizing from Allmusic, and Billboard, plus bull-shit sales news without any proof as to how they got it. — Legolas (talk2me) 14:47, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
          • removed
  • For Australian certifications, you need to link to indivitual certification years, instead of linking to an overall certification page.
  • what are you exactly trying to say?
    • You are using an overall certification page, so when users open it, they cannot find that particular certification, they have to open each and every year, to look for it. So you need to replace that universal link, with links for the respective album/single certifications.
      • Ah, now I understand. First I thought you meant the internal links. Done
  • Why the em-dash in the Allmusic links?
  • done
  • Reference 43 needs an en-dash.
  • mh, the title use a hyphen. Is this correct that it should be replaced with an en-dash?
  • Further reading, does the book have an isbn?
  • added
  • Ref 8, 38 Allmusic
  • is the publisher?
    • No, you need to de-italicize them as its an online source.
      • Ah, you meant 7 and 37 (I usually check the comments below, and then go to the top, so I removed the amazon ref after this comment ;P). done.
  • Ref 11, en-dash
  • it is actually
    • I corrected it.
  • Studio albums, the first certification, country links to RIAA, a dab.
  • done
  • Another thing, the reference nos, under the chart names look a little cluttered, why don't you kill them? They would look so much more neat. A recent example I can give you is the FL Kesha discography, and how it has incorporated CITEKILL. — Legolas (talk2me) 14:47, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Where does the Chart-surfer link point to S&G discography? I see only the recent album chart with Adele on top.
  • I can not replace the link; if you go to a chart, the url is everytime the same.
    • You mean to say that from the page that is displayed there, you can go to the respective cchart its validating?
      • yes
        • Can you please guide me how can I reach the chart for S&G, I don't know German.
          • You need to click on "Liedsuche" under "Musik" on the right side, then after "Nach was soll gesucht werden?" write the album, song, interpret, etc. and then choose the chart. Profit!
            • Thank you.
              • One thing, can you include that pathway within the reference as to how to find S&G's discography there? It will be easier for readers to find it, readers like me who were initially baffled. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:06, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
                • Done. I used the parameter "quote=".
  • done


  • Reference 27, how and why is it being used?
  • To fill the cells with lacking peak chart positions
    • It just links along side the UK chart. So what exactly is it validating?
      • One example: Old Friends: there is no peak chart position in [2] but in [3].
        • I'm not exactly satisfied with zobbel as a source. If you want, I have full access to Music Week archives, I can find you much reliable sources for the chart peaks. — Legolas (talk2me) 14:47, 29 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
          • Yes please.
            • This source contains about "Old Friends". {{cite journal|title=Simon & Garfunkel Old Friends: Live On Stage|last=Jones|first=Alan|date=November 13, 2004|work=[[Music Week]]|location=London|volume=47|issue=49}}

There are lots more to do in this discography, and I don't believe it is close to being a FL yet. — Legolas (talk2me) 07:41, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫Share–a–Power[citation needed] 10:17, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support – The article has improved greatly and can be promoted to FL now. — Legolas (talk2me) 11:39, 1 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Quick comments Box sets are compilation albums and book citations need page numbers. Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:54, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 19:10, 3 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • "and two box set released since 1964." Of course, "set" should be plural.
  • done
  • "and was later also included on their fourth studio album Bookends". Here, the "also" is just an extraneous word. Removing it would tighten this bit somewhat without harming meaning.
  • done
  • The note at the bottom of many tables is "denotes releases that did not chart or were not released." From another recent FLC, I've become alerted to the fact that "releases" that "were not released" makes no sense. That FLC put it as "were not released in that country", which is why I didn't make a big deal of it there. Is that type of phrasing what is meant here?
  • In reference 35, Allmusic shouldn't be italicized; this is inconsistent with the other cites from this website.
  • Just so that other reviewers know, the references I questioned before are the current last two. Would be nice if another reviewer offered an opinion on them, as it would put my mind at ease. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 16:27, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 11:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
rcComments
  • "The duo's third.." new para so reiterate Simon & Garfunkel.
done
  • Similarly in the fourth para of the lead.
done
  • "most notably " says who?
done
  • It says in the UK source that Parsley, Sage, Rosemary & Thyme was released in 1968. Perhaps the "release date" in these tables need a note to say exactly what it relates to (e.g. the US release date?).
done
  • BPI search page needs instructions, as it's not a direct link to the results I'm looking for.
I don't think it needs an instruction. The search box is right beside the info.
  • Ref 7 indicates a 2010 "best of" album, is that listed in this discog?
no, it's nothing else than The Best of Simon and Garfunkel; the date is false, or it's the date of the re-release.
  • The template used here indicates 17 compilation albums, you have listed only 15.
  • the two others are the box sets
  • I can't seem to find the Graduate soundtrack on link 17, is there a more direct link for it you can use?
unfortunately not. The RIAA website was updated and the search is a mess... let's hope it gets updated soon!
  • Penultimate ref (43 at the moment) gives me an HTTP 403 error.
I would wait till tomorrow; if there is still an error, I will remove this ref and will find a better solution to cite the "Baby Driver" single.
Still the error. I removed it.
The sources are listed below, after "acknowledgments", including former producers of Simon & Garfunkel, magazines like "Rock & Roll Musik Magazin".
  • Could add the number of pages total in the Further reading section.
I don't have the book, but I'll try to find the page/s.
I found the book at the Bavarian Library in Munich (I live in Germany), but I need a special agreement to borrow the books from Munich to another city as interlibrary loan.--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫Share–a–Power[citation needed] 12:27, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 16:17, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

--♫Greatorangepumpkin♫Share–a–Power[citation needed] 20:54, 4 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support no issues found. --PresN 21:19, 8 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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