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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by User:Scorpion0422 20:53, 22 November 2008 [1].

The Bellflower Bunnies (season 1)

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The main list received no consensus recently, so we're trying this one to see what happens now. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 16:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Restart" at 16:19, 4 November 2008, nothing negative, but not enough to reach consensus
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs)

  • Unnecessary commas all over the place:
    • "Mistletoe is giving his brothers some skiing tips, when he accidentally sets some marbles loose from a bag" No comma after "tips".
    • "Extras on both discs included trailers for other FFF releases, and special messages from the distributor's staff."
    • "The first season was also released by TF1 Vidéo on 23 January 2003,[7] and again on 19 February 2004"
    • "Its only special features were a collection of songs from the episodes, and a DVD-ROM weblink to the distributor's site."
    • "The extras were colouring pages, and previews of other edelkids products."
  • "The third volume in this version, "Hoog in de Lucht" ("Balloonatic Bunnies"), came out" "came out"--was released.
  • "autumn 2000" Month please?
  • "Graphics and Animation of Antwerp, Belgium,[Note 3] a sudsidiary of Luxembourg's Studio 352, did the layouts for these episodes,[10] while North Korea's SEK Studio handled overseas animation duties." "did"-->designed, "while"-->and.
  • "Consisting of only four episodes"
  • "The music was composed by Baranski, along with Daniel Scott."-->The music was composed by Baranski and Daniel Scott.
  • "The first official episode, "Room to Move", deals with the family's move to their new house at Blueberry Hill." Is there an unofficial episode?
  • A general comment: Can you make a navigation template for The Bellflower Bunnies series? Dabomb87 (talk) 01:08, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Since this is a (mainly) French production, I'd like to see the original French voice actors listed.
  • It says the crew roster included Moran Caouissin and Josette Zagar, but what exactly did they do?
  • The Lede says who directed and wrote the episodes, but this should be mentioned again in the Cast and Crew section, as the Lede serves to introduce the main sections
  • "who is now Vice President of Montreal's Spectra Animation" will quickly age. Anchor it to a specific time period
  • What makes DVDcritiques.com a RS?
  • French production: French titles first, I think
  • Airdate should be in its own column, not attached to the Title column
  • You don't have to use {{S-Japanese episode list}}. {{episode list}} will work just as well, although it doesn't allow for sorting, but I don't feel it's really necessary. Check out our other FLs, production codes and episode numbers are often in different orders
  • Episode summaries seem more like teasers. See Wikipedia:Plot_summaries and WP:PLOTSUM.
    • For instance, in the first episode, "Periwinkle has trouble adapting to the change." How? Why? How does he overcome it? "a magpie named Magda tries to scare them away as the "Blueberry Ghost"" Again, how? why? How is it resolved?
    • "Despite worries from his family, little Dandelion goes with them to a nearby carnival." is "little" necessary? Why are they worried?
    • "The young Bellflowers accidentally take off on the hot air balloon of Loti and Lizzi" How did this happen?
  • I think the DVD section needs a lot of help.
    • Region 2 DVDs first, since that's what is used in France
    • Consider making a DVD table such as what is used in Lost (season 1) or Degrassi: The Next Generation (season 1).
    • Are the Dutch, German, and Chinese titles necessary? Do they help the readers of the English Wikipedia understand anything more about the subject, or are they there just for the sake of it?

Matthewedwards 23:50, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Note I did not evaluate the non-English sources. Ealdgyth - Talk 18:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Slgrandson responds:

  • I think I can rewrite the plot descriptions, since I have the R1 DVDs. (Actually, this may as well affect any chance for the next two seasons to have a go at FLC any time soon, because I haven't seen every one yet!)
  • The R1 discs for season 1 are in English only, and I don't seem to have found anything online concerning this season's French cast. (This calls for an R2 import, but it'll have to wait how many days or weeks...)
  • DVD tables may be a problem because, unlike those of major U.S./British shows, the packaging and content(s) of Bellflower's first two seasons vary across different countries.
  • I've already revamped the episode tables with {{Episode list}}, and made other tweaks per comments.

So, what else is there after this? --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 05:33, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support All my issues are resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:29, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by SatyrTN
  • The cleanup banners means the list doesn't meet WP:WIAFL #3 and/or #7. I recognize that the nominator added those after nomination, but the fact that they are there makes it hard to recommend promoting the list.
  • There's a *lot* of lede text for four episodes. I'm worried that a single-season list may be too short - but I haven't read the previous discussion, so I may be off base.
  • Two of the summaries are a bit long, and two of them are a bit short.
  • Are the trailers public-domain? If not (and I suspect not), then the "External link" to the YouTube trailers is inappropriate.
  • Ditto with the two minute clip at KI.KA
  • I could be wrong, but I don't think the "External links" to distributors is appropriate either.
  • For now I'm going to Oppose this FL candidate. If the cleanup banner and summary issues are addressed, I may change my !vote. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 23:18, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]


  • Imo, this is inherently too short a list to need to be a list article. It should go to GAN. Only 4 episodes does not need a list, and breaking up the table with prose means there is absolutely no benefit from using the table. that, along with the unbalanced plot recapsfor the episodes = oppose. Recomend this for GAN, and only the combined list for FLC, although i wonder why seperate series articles are even needed - none are so long that they would look better merged. Yobmod (talk) 20:36, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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