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The list was promoted by The Rambling Man 10:01, 15 June 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Tip O'Neill Award[edit]

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Nominator(s): – Muboshgu (talk), Bloom6132 (talk) 05:02, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because we feel it meets the FL criteria, save for any correctable issues. – Muboshgu (talk) 05:02, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Underneath-it-All
* Refs → Websites likes BaseballHallofFame.ca and MLB.com shouldn't be in italics (WP:ITAL)
  • Wikilink the first time publishers are mentioned in the refs → Ref #1 wikilink Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame
  • An ISBN needs to be added to ref #2
  • Ref #10 → add The New York Times Company as the publisher
  • That's unnecessary, because we're using a "cite news" template, not a "cite web" template. Simply the newspaper name will suffice, per Mariano Rivera and Derek Jeter FAs. Both have NYT articles that have solely the newspaper name and no publisher. —Bloom6132 (talk) 14:13, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref #14 + #18 → add Torstar as the publisher
  • Ref #27 → add Metroland Media Group as the publisher
  • Ref #28 → add MediaNews Group as the publisher

– Underneath-it-All (talk) 00:04, 11 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Ok. If they have been accepted in other baseball FLC's then I don't see the problem. Other than that it is an excellent list. Great work! – Underneath-it-All (talk) 01:53, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review! —Bloom6132 (talk) 07:00, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Crisco 1492 (talk)
*a major league record of 84 consecutive save opportunities converted from 2002–2004 - What is "converted" here?
  • Do you mean a piped wikilink or a source? —Bloom6132 (talk) 19:28, 16 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the review! —Bloom6132 (talk) 09:15, 17 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 15:43, 31 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Minor issue, but "earliest Canadian stars in" is mildly POV.
  • Hmm. Source 1 does call him a "star", so it's sorta backed up... There's a way to reword it, it'll come to me. – Muboshgu (talk) 18:31, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • And ref 3, which could be citing that "star" is "unavailable" to me.
  • Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame is overlinked.
  • "from 2002–2004" never nice in prose, why not from 2002 to 2004 or between 2002 and 2004 inclusive or something prose?
  • "proceeded to win" not keen on "proceeded to" always feels a little redundant. Maybe just "then won..."
  • Changed to "went on to win". "then won" sounds a bit awkward and incomplete. —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:44, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Last four sentences of the second lead para repeat Tip O'Neill three times. I understand you need to remove ambiguity because you're talking about other awards in the same para, but consider a rethink so we don't have so much repetition.
    • I moved the Daniel Brabant tidbit up to cut out one of its uses. That should help some, but as you say, we do have to be clear which award we're talking about at each usage of the word "award". – Muboshgu (talk) 18:33, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Error in the Tip O'Neill template for most recent year.

The Rambling Man (talk) 10:55, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • How do you demonstrate a player is still "active"? E.g. Morneau's win is referenced in 2008, where's the citation for him being on a roster this season?
  • Per my discussion with Bagumba in recently passed FL, the "Baseball Almanac general ref lists all the players, which also has links to each player's profile where it can be verified if they are active/inactive." In short, the general ref suffices in determining active/inactive players. —Bloom6132 (talk) 06:55, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think since we're trying to appeal to all readers, not just those who follow baseball, a note to that effect would be rather helpful. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:36, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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