Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Zamorano Eighty/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was not promoted by Hahc21 10:01, 25 August 2013 (UTC) [1].

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Zamorano Eighty

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Nominator(s): Gamaliel (talk) 20:54, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because I think this article and list comprehensively cover the topic. After it appeared on DYK, I submitted it for peer review in June, but my request was archived without response. While I feel the article is complete, I have been actively working on improving it, including tracking down and uploading images to accompany it and creating articles on some of the redlinked authors on the list. Even if you feel this does not meed FL criteria, I am eager to hear constructive criticism regarding other ways I can improve this article. Gamaliel (talk) 20:54, 3 July 2013 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Underneath-it-All

;Comments Dates for refs. should all be written the same way. Ex: May 30, 2013 or 2013-05-30. Add alt text for all images I would insert a header titled "The Zamorano Eighty" above "The works on the list are numbered..." Ref 1 → add Hearst Corporation as publisher Ref 2 → add Doyce B. Nunis, Jr. as author Ref 4 → add Tribune Company as publisher Ref 7 → add Dorothy Sloan as author. Also, Dorothy Sloan Books is a website and therefore shouldn't be in italics. Ref 9 → needs date retrieved. Also the website name shouldn't be in italics (unless its also a published work?) – Underneath-it-All (talk) 19:58, 6 July 2013 (UTC) I don't have much experience with alt text, but I gather from Wikipedia:Alternative text for images that its primary purpose is for screen readers. So I imagined it would be tedious to click through a long list of 'book cover for this', 'book cover for that', so I just added a concise 'book cover' for all of them. I'll put in longer alt texts if it is considered more appropriate to do so, of course. I made all the ref corrections you suggestion with one exception: I left Americana Exchange Monthly in italics because I believe those articles are from a print publication and were later added to the Americana Exchange website. Gamaliel (talk) 16:27, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Comments –

• Seven paragraphs is very large for an FL's lead. Since most of the paras aren't that large, I suggest merging some of them together. It would be great if a four-paragraph lead was the result.
• The Author column should be sorting by last name, not first name.
• The hyphens in the Year column should be en dashes instead. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:14, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

• Thanks to my discovery of the wonderful sortname template, the author column is now properly sortable. I've also added en dashes. I'll brainstorm some ways to restructure the text as per your first suggestion. Gamaliel (talk) 18:03, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Comments

• "Zamorano club" v "Zamorano Club" be consistent.
• Any word on how the auctions went? i.e. were the sales successful and expensive?
• "books.[9][8]" reverse order.
• "rara avis" meaning?
• Cover or title page column need not be sortable.
• While I thoroughly enjoyed reading the lead, I don't think it really covers the list itself (i.e. the works) in any great detail, it spends more time discussing the collectors and their auctions/plans to steal etc. It may be worth adding an additional section after the lead to discuss collectors etc, and expand the lead to discuss the various books, authors etc which may be of interest within the list.
• "1882–1890" etc "1882–90" per WP:YEAR.
• How did you distinguish between which authors had red links and which weren't linked at all?
• When no image of the cover is available, don't row span the blanks, it looks odd. Just have an en-dash, centrally aligned, to indicate that nothing is currently available.
• "1854–5" -> "1854–55"
• "Retrieved June 03, 2013." etc no need for leading zero.
• Second external link needs an en-dash per WP:DASH, not a spaced hyphen.

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

I've only begun responding to these points (thanks for the feedback, btw), but I wanted to address the redlink question. I left all of the authors redlinked that I could, but removed links entirely when they pointed to articles about different people or disambiguation pages. Gamaliel (talk) 13:04, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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