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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was kept by IMatthew 12:44, 26 September 2009 [1].

List of recognised political parties in India[edit]

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There's a note on the talkpage which hits the nub of the problem here - it needs updating. It has a maintenance tag, the two PDF refs are dead, the third ref is probably not a reliable source. There's a missing image, it needs some work on the lead, and perhaps those tables could be reworked. The Rambling Man (talk) 12:38, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment All images need alternative text, and there's a deleted image in the table. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:16, 1 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The PDF links were fixed , and the image reqplaced by GDibyendu. [2] [3] make the thirld link seem reliable. Abeer.ag (talk) 06:32, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Excellent! Now, the lead needs to be reworked to get rid of that "This is a list of..." beginning. If you remove that first sentence, the introduction would be much improved without any more rewriting. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:34, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments/Issues
    • Is this a list of recognised or registered parties in India? The lead says registered, but the page's title says recognised.
    • The lead needs to be sourced
    • Bahujan Samaj Party's symbol is deleted(?)
    • The tables need to be formatted per current standards, i.e. be sortable, have borders
      • done There is a black border now. Enuf? Hometech (talk) 12:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Notes are not formatted properly, as well

--Crzycheetah 04:06, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment It seems that some improvements have been made, though not in the last five days. Is anybody working on the above issues? Dabomb87 (talk) 14:08, 15 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UPDATE Most of the above things are done. Hometech (talk) 12:59, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I am rather pressed IRL now, but some things that I can see...
    • Still need WP:ALT text for all images (including the logos).
      • alt text or the "link=" field, what do u advise? Hometech (talk) 12:32, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        • For the parties, I suggest merely transcribing the name of the symbol as listed in the symbol, e.g., for File:ECI-elephant.png I suggest simply "ELEPHANT" (there's no need to give details about what the elephant looks like, nor to name the party again). For the lead image (the map) I suggest a brief description of the overall pattern, e.g., "The BJP and its coalitions led state governments in a broad east-west stripe across the country ..." (you fill in the blanks, and I'm sure you can do a better job than this). Eubulides (talk) 03:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
          • I see work has started on this. A small point: please try to transcribe the text as accurately as possible without interpretation. For example, the current alt text for Image:ECI-corn-sickle.png is "ears of corn and a sickle" but the actual text in that image is "EARS OF CORN & SICKLE" and it's better to write it that way. Please see WP:ALT#Text for more on this. Eubulides (talk) 16:56, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
            • Alt text added for the remaining images, but the map's alt text still needs improvement in accordance with Eubulides' guidance. Dabomb87 (talk) 20:41, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • Why all the capital letters and bold text?
    • The introduction still reads a little weakly to me - for instance, the first sentence makes no direct reference to political parties.
    • Names usually sort by surname, with use of the {{sortname}} template.
    • Is it "Chief" or "Party leader"?
    • You start the second table with a discussion over the symbols used, but these are present (mainly) in the first table as well.
    • Acronym or Acr.
    • I would prefer to see the tables with consistent column widths from section to section.
    • I don't like blank cells, they tend (in my opinion) to leave me wondering if they're an oversight or simply no information exists. Would prefer en- or em-dash with a note in each case explaning the detail's absence.
    • There's still a maintenance tag on the article (which has been there a while)...
  • The Rambling Man (talk) 13:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the symbols, each party has one, and each could be added, I think. As I said on my talk page over a week ago:

The current symbols, as of 14 March 2009, seem to be specified in this official notification; and the actual symbols are printed in the ECI's 2007 Handbook of political parties and election symbols. The notification says that the BSP's symbol is the elephant, except in Assam and Sikkim, where they have to choose one of the free ones (because the elephant is used by Asom Gana Parishad there). The official symbols are shown on page 87 onwards of the Handbook ...
The original image, File:ECI-elephant.png, was hosted at Commons but deleted there in December 2007 (see the Commons deletion log). I don't know why that one was deleted, but the other ones - File:ECI-lotus.png for example - were retained. Perhaps we need to ask a commons admin to help? I suspect it could be restored if an appropriate copyright tag can be applied, as for the other ones.

I hope that helps. -- Testing times (talk) 18:58, 17 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Remaining issues
    • The first paragraph is too short
      • Done
    • What does light blue in the tables indicate?
    • Why is National People's Party's year is blank along with Save Goa Front's?
      • Done
        • The party doesn't have a leader? If so, an explanation is needed.--Cheetah (talk) 02:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • web123india.com OR webindia123.com? Why is this reliable?
      • Done
    • Can the notes use letters to avoid confusion?
      • Done
        • They still use numbers in the "notes" section.--Cheetah (talk) 02:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
          • Done
    • Notes 1-3 should be sourced
      • Done
    • Note#4 is not working properly
      • Done
    • Specific ref#2 is a note and should be under the "notes" section. The source of this note should be a formatted reference.
      • Done

--Cheetah (talk) 04:47, 29 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment National People's Party is a dab link. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:57, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Done Hometech (talk) 20:12, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • It should be linked to an appropriate page, even if that page doesn't exist yet.--Cheetah (talk) 02:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Done

If the remaining issues are not resolved by 8 September, this list will be delisted. Please check all outstanding comments carefully, and address them expediently. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:45, 5 September 2009 (UTC) *Most have been resolved. Hometech (talk) 13:28, 8 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Why do some parties have have "None" in their symbol columns, while others just have blank cells? Dabomb87 (talk) 12:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Notice: Please address Dabomb87's concern so that I am able to close this by Tuesday. iMatthew talk at 13:20, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • My image cell concern is not a deal-breaker, but I would like to see the map alt text improved. Dabomb87 (talk) 18:52, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • Besides the Dabomb's concern, there's also remaining concerns from TRM. iMatthew, before closing this nomination, please check to see whether the concerns TRM brought up are met. As of today, the sorting problem is not met, for example.--Cheetah (talk) 07:28, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • There's also a dead link that needs to be fixed. Dabomb87 (talk) 15:30, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fixed image column and sorting issue—Chris!c/t 01:30, 25 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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