Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Bechu Kurian Thomas

Justice Bechu Kurian Thomas[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 18 Feb 2022 at 14:31:56 (UTC)

Reason: Good quality, lighting, EV and composition. Though there is a glare in the spectacle, it is not much distracting the image/eyes and I seriously did not want to manipulate the image by removing it. The impossibility of getting good quality pictures of judges adds high EV.
Articles in which this image appears: Bechu Kurian Thomas
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Law
Creator: Mydreamsparrow

Support as nominator – DreamSparrow ^Chat 14:31, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I have concerns over notability and objectivity. You created the article and have broadly been the only contributor. The image itself is not helped by the caoting on his glasses, nor the background. Charlesjsharp (talk) 21:44, 8 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Charlesjsharp, my major contributions are towards the Indian judiciary and especially Kerala state judiciary, the highest judicial system in the state. I don't think there are much contributors specifically on this particular area since the availability of material and photographs are very less and difficult. I don't know how to explain the difficulty of getting a portrait of a judicial officer. Moreover, as you suggested in some other discussions, the article is not the criteria for considering FPC. As far as the other objections are concerned, I did not want to manipulate the image, that is they I left it as it is for consideration. DreamSparrow ^Chat 05:55, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Does the Kerala state judiciary has any interest outside Kerala? I suspect not. Charlesjsharp (talk) 11:38, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comment – Man looks at camera. – Sca (talk) 13:12, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – good photo but not a compelling pose/composition. I disagree with Charles, article creation is a positive, not a negative, and notability by en-Wiki standards is all that counts. Bammesk (talk) 01:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I know Bammesk, but hope you understand the difficulty to give a direction for pose or composition arrangement to a 'Judge'. Helpless. I could take the better way possible. DreamSparrow ^Chat 18:40, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support. In the end, Dreamsparrow is providing us with encyclopedic photos of notable people we couldn't readily get otherwise. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.6% of all FPs} 02:13, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Having read the article again, I do think think he is notable. He has done nothing of note. He is just doing his job. Charlesjsharp (talk) 11:54, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If that be so, Hima Kohli, P. S. Narasimha, Bela Trivedi, Nicholas Hamblen, Lord Hamblen of Kersey, Ben Stephens, Lord Stephens of Creevyloughgare are also not notable according to you ? They are also doing their job but notable. The same way he holds the position/his job makes him notable. DreamSparrow ^Chat 18:36, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I guess we have different ideas on notability. Certainly the British examples are not notable in my view. Charlesjsharp (talk) 22:27, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May be the difference in idea Charlesjsharp. But Charles, let me make it more specific, we cannot consider the notability of persona in a single general way, kindly have a look at this too David Paciocco, Bradley W. Miller, Alison Harvison Young, David H. Doherty, George Strathy, Frank Marrocco, Sarah Pepall (single line article), Faye McWatt. All of them are notable only because they hold the particular office. But it doesn't mean that, they are doing nothing to the society. It is only because we have very less contributors in the area which is too boring and complex. Especially to contribute about persona is much more difficult comparing to other subjects and that may be one of the reasons for less or inactive contributors in this area. Moreover, if am not wrong, since I started creating articles about the judges of Kerala judiciary, there were very few judge's articles and that is the major reason for major contributions are made by me only ha ha. I am trying to do my level best and will continue as much as possible to expand/create the articles. Answer to your earlier point, Does the Kerala state judiciary has any interest outside Kerala?, yes of course and you may not be aware of it. That's why I called it as boring and complex subject. I think I am the only contributor concentrating particularly on this subject. Hope you got my point and appreciate my effort: DreamSparrow ^Chat 04:24, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See section WP:JUDGE in WP:Notability (people). We go by en-Wiki standards/guidelines, not personal views of editors. Bammesk (talk) 05:02, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support - not wild about the composition, but it does squeak by to me. No concerns at all about notability; the judge of a state supreme court is sufficiently notable, I should think. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.}
Oppose The subject is notable and the photo is useful, but it's not of FP standard due to the reflections on his glasses. Nick-D (talk) 22:44, 11 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not Promoted --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 21:07, 18 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]