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OriginalBureau of Engraving and Printing engraved portrait of Rep. Marriott H. Brosius, PA, 10th district, 1889 – 1901
Reason
High quality, high EV. The article originally had no image of the subject and this engraving is far superior to the only other image on Commons (that I was able to locate).
Articles in which this image appears
Marriott H. Brosius
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/People/Political
Creator
Bureau of Engraving and Printing, restored by Godot13
  • Question Would you be opposed to preparing an alt for consideration that contained significantly less whitespace around the edges? I think it would help the image 'pop' in thumbnail form. I don't know if there's a medium/context specific reason not to do that, though. Sven Manguard Wha? 04:11, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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ALT 2
  • Much better. I might even have cut some of the white space between the bottom of the portrait oval and the line of text, or cut the text entirely, but I can be an aggressive cropper and this is acceptable as is. Quality is there, as is EV. Support. Sven Manguard Wha? 13:18, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: I'm not convinced of the utility of the caption at all, to be honest. It doesn't really enhance this as a portrait of Brosius, which is how we're using it; if anything, it makes the image less useful, as it means the portrait itself is smaller at thumbnail size. J Milburn (talk) 18:02, 17 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Alt2: Beautiful image, fits well on the page, eye-catching. While I share the previous issues, the second alt addresses them nicely. Also: I am new, hopefully I am formatting this correctly. Let me know if not. Samecircle_productions — Preceding undated comment added 23:26, 25 May 2014‎
  • Oppose original and alt1, support alt2. No "mangling" is taking place. A portrait's a portrait whether or not it uses the original captions, watermarks or anything of the like. J Milburn (talk) 10:09, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • No, it really is not. 18th and 19th century engravings - which is what the is, not a photograph - have a very distinct aesthetic. The caption forms part of that. This is a terrible precedent to set. This is why we have a number of works on commons, bereft of their original context, that cannot easily be restored. A complete work should be a requirement at FPC, and I think that voting for a mangled work is shameful. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:32, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think that argument would hold water if we were promoting this as an example of an engraving, or as a piece of artwork in its own right, but we aren't. We have to ask what is useful for the article; we cannot judge the image independently of its use. J Milburn (talk) 16:41, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:BROSIUS, Marriott (BEP engraved portrait) (name cropped out).jpg --Armbrust The Homunculus 20:48, 26 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]