Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/TrabantPrague

Trabant 601[edit]

**Original** - A Trabant 601 in Prague, Czech Republic.

Reason: A high quality photograph of an historic car in its "natural" environment, namely a former Eastern-European communist country (nowadays the Czech Republic). Note the parking permit stating Prague 1.
Articles this image appears in: Trabant and Eastern Germany
Creator: Massimo Catarinella

Support as nominator --Massimo Catarinella (talk) 23:02, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Sorry, but there's absolutely no wow-factor. Wikipedia FPs are supposed to be encyclopedic, this ~~alas is not really.~~ has it somewhat but not enough for it top FP'd just upon quality. Ceran →(sing→see →scribe) 23:11, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Oppose Not just a lack of wow factor. It has distracting background elements, namely the car parked next to it. It also is in very poor condition which in my mind as well as others who have worked on the the conventions used for automobile images at WP:CAR is a problem. There are plenty of Trabies out there and some are in excellent condition so getting on without body damage isn't too big a deal. --Leivick (talk) 23:21, 2 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
comment the condition and background elements arguably add to the enc. I could weak oppose on that basis, unless someone tells me that this car's condition, e.g., is atypical. de Bivort 00:10, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The image conventions at WP:CAR (obviously not the final word) stipulate a clean vehicle without body damage as this gives the clearest idea of what the actual vehicle looks like. My feeling is that with cars, taking good photos without other vehicles nearby isn't all that hard as they are mobile. --Leivick (talk) 00:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You said that there are plenty of Trabies out there. Well, I've never seen one in Western-, Northern or Southern-Europe and this was the first and only one I've seen in Eastern-Europe (though I've only been to the Czech Republic so far in this part of Europe). Since most Eastern European countries are becoming more wealthier, people are more often buying new cars, such as BMW's and thus replacing there old cars. So I think it will become more likely, that in ten years from now the only Trabies you will see, are those that belong to collectors or those that can be rented in Berlin as part of a tour. Since Trabants now will be at least 20 years of age, most of them "in the wild" will not look good anymore. --Massimo Catarinella (talk) 01:04, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are many clubs devoted to the Trabant particularly in Germany. All I am really trying to say is that I have seen better picture of Trabants and there is no reason someone can't make one and upload it. --Leivick (talk) 02:00, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure the criteria at WP:CAR apply here. de Bivort 14:08, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose Messy background, unappealing lighting and composition. Good enough in an article, but not FP. --Janke | Talk 09:41, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Front grille in shadow; just not lit well enough. --Bridgecross (talk) 21:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose just not FP quality. Durova^Charge! 20:56, 4 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted MER-C 03:01, 9 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]