Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Failed log/November 2007

The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a failed featured portal candidate. Please do not modify it.

Portal:Pakistan

• Support: This Portal seems to be a complete and comprehensive guide to Pakistan. Particularly, News and featured article sections have been maintained nicely. The portal deserves the right to appear as a featured portal. Nomi887 08:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose: Although the news section is well maintained, the rest of the portal is in some serious maintenance need. It is strongly recommended that portals are passed through a peer review process before being nominated here. A peer review helps to identify and fix basic improvement needs like the ones highlighted below:
  • It is not clear how the "Featured article" and the "Selected picture of the week" are rotated. There needs to be either a random rotation process, or a nomination-selection process.
  • The history of the Selected picture of the week does not imply that it is being updated weekly. Suggest change the title to just "Selected Picture".
  • "This week in History" is also left for manual updation! There needs to be an automated process. As of today the box is displaying an item pertaining to 11th September. 11th September and 3rd October are not in the same week, not even close.
  • The DYK list was last changed more than 6 months ago! This section needs more items, should be updated regulalrly and could use an archive and a random rotation process.
  • The noticeboard is not updated either... It requests for peer review on Akhtar Hameed Khan. Peer review of this article was closed only a year back! Also the meaning of Pakistan Politics: Allama Mashriqi is not very clear. Arman ^(Talk) 08:15, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose It's a very good portal, a great effort by the authors. I like the broadness of the News section, which covers a lot of material. But, regretfully, this portal is not being properly maintained, aside from the News section.
  • Arman's basically summed up the updating needed for the portal.
  • I'd suggest a random rotation for articles and pictures, which is best for a portal that is being maintained by few editors.
  • A lot more DYKs are needed, possibly randomized.
  • This week in Pakistani history could also be randomized automated
  • The transclusion of the information boxes is broken. This is because the boxes were moved from the old Wikiportal standard to the current Portal: namespace. The problem arises when a user wants to edit the box (see the edit link, top right of each box), and reaches a redirect page, instead of the page where the information is maintained. Suggest editing the Portal:Pakistan page and changing the transclusion links from the old Wikiportal redirects to the actual Portal:Pakistan sub-pages.

If you have any questions on how you can do all this, especially the randomization of information, feel free to ask us. - Mtmelendez ^{(Talk|UB|Home)} 14:46, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Just a comment on what Mtmelendez said - I don't think This week in Pakistani history could also be randomized. If we are talking about "This week" we should be talking about current week, not just any random week of the year! What should happen is that - there should be separate pre-constructed pages for 52 weeks of the year and the portal page should have codes in place to pick the right page relevant for ongoing week. The task may be easier if instead of weeks the box is about This month in History. Arman ^(Talk) 02:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you're right. I guess I was a little confused, I meant to use the automated features, such as selected anniversary. Thanks for the correction. - Mtmelendez ^{(Talk|UB|Home)} 10:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

• Support The transculation on the information boxes is now corrected as Mtmelendez pointed out, while "Selected Picture of the week" has also been converted to "Selected Picture". Though some portions are manually updated instead of automated process but they would soon be converted. Nomi887 08:21, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

• Comments: Since you want to work on the portal and improve it, here are some other points for your consideration:
  • I am not sure how the current selected article, Ramadan, is related to Pakistan. I understand, it is the month of Ramadan and Pakistan being a Muslic country (like many other muslic countries in the world) is observing it with due respect, but Pakistan portal should feature topics that discuss specifically about Pakistan. It would be appropriate if the article was on "Ramadan celebration in Pakistan" or something alike. In the entire article on Ramadan the word "Pakistan" doesn't even appear once.
  • The images in the selected article archive need "tool-tip text"-type captions.
  • The Pakistan national cricket team article uses the PCB logo - which is a fair use image. Fair use images cannot be used on portals.
  • Most of the images in the selected picture archive need more elaborate captions.

On the whole, considering the current state of the portal it may be a good idea to withdraw the FPC nomination for the time, rework on the portal thoroughly, have a peer-review and then resubmit for Featured status at a more appropriate time. - Arman ^(Talk) 11:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose and suggest withdrawal per Armanaziz. feydey 10:48, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
• Oppose per all the above Joe I 07:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Not promoted — Chris.B | talk 14:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

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