Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Cantillation

Cantillation[edit]

An example of cantillation in the Jewish tradition: A Hebrew Torah blessing chanted before the Aliyah La-Torah (reading of the Torah) during a Reform Bar Mitzvah by Cantor Seth Warner.

Culture needs documented as well as nature and music. This is a fine example of the use of sound in the Judaism.

Nominate and support. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 01:58, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Good quality recording, good EV. No complaints here. Jujutacular ^talk 02:36, 23 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I have no idea how to judge this in cultural terms. An expert cantor might well say ... aargh, he rushes this phrase, he buries that, he's supposed to pause here ... can we locate someone who knows? Tony (talk) 14:43, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As it happens, yes. I'll put this up on WP:Wikiproject Judaism. And ask them for sounds as well, because, hey, we hav obvious systemic bias, and that means we need to do something about it =). Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 16:34, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Does sound a bit rushed, I'm fairly certain it's not meant to be that fast. The breathing's a bit too loud and can be heard clearly. —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 9:01pm • 10:01, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- It sounds right from what I remember from the few times I went to a synagogue with Jewish friends. The breathing is probably a close microphone, though. Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 19:53, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  - I suppose you're right about the microphone, could the breathing get toned down without ruining the rest of the sound? What's WP Judaism say about it though? —Ancient Apparition • Champagne? • 5:51pm • 06:51, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Sounds good, and recorded well. A useful addition to WP. Major Bloodnok (talk) 22:40, 25 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Further comment: is there feedback coming from WProject Judaism? There may not be a critical musician there. If so, good; if not, I wonder whether someone can be located off-wiki to provide feedback? There must be specialist teachers around. On systemic bias: are there websites with traditional non-Western music, free use? Indian, Japanese, Balinese, Chinese opera? I could ask the FAC writer of an article on an Indian musical genre ... But still the problem will remain of finding people who know the music culture to judge. Hmmm. Do any other WPs have a featured sound process, and are music-genre articles on other WPs well developed, with authors available for comment? Tony (talk) 06:55, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This has been run by a rabbi to have the pronunciation checked, if that helps. Also, there are such collections available, but all the ones I've found are very hard to document. Try poking around Robert Garfias' site, e.g. [1] [2] - but be warned; the reason I haven't uploaded his finds is due to the trickiness of finding the necessary cdocumentation. . Adam Cuerden ^(talk) 15:54, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted Cantillation Example Aliyah Reform.ogg This passes by the count. I hoped that project Judaism would be able to enlighten us on the technical part of this recording but I guess not. If there are any glaring issues with this it can always be nominated of desisting. --Guerillero | My Talk 17:05, 1 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]