Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Main Fire Emblem series/archive1
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Fire Emblem is a tactical role-playing video game franchise developed by Intelligent Systems and published by Nintendo. Described by its creators as an "RPG simulation", the gameplay revolves around tactical movement of characters across grid-based environments, while incorporating a story and characters similar to those in a more traditional role-playing video game. This topic excludes remakes and other non-main series titles.
- Contributor(s): haha169
Many talented editors have brought all of these articles up to Good Article status. They are all quality articles and each one fits the GA criteria, so this topic fits the GT criteria. --haha169 (talk) 15:45, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- Did you contact the editors who brought these articles to Good Article status about this nomination? GamerPro64 16:13, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- No I did not, and I didn't realize that it was a requirement until now. I've identified two who are still active, ProtoDrake and IDV, and leave a message on their talk page. --haha169 (talk) 00:32, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- I've said this before, but I still think it makes more sense to create a topic that includes all Fire Emblem games considering there are not that many of them. There are two remakes, both of which already are at GA, and two spin-offs (Tokyo Mirage Sessions ♯FE and Fire Emblem Heroes), one of which is close to GA already.--IDVtalk 07:14, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Since you're one of the main contributors to making these articles, do you think the nomination should be closed? GamerPro64 16:12, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- ProtoDrake is the main contributor, I only helped with some copyediting etc and taking two of the articles through GAN. I think it makes sense to get Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE and Fire Emblem Heroes up to GA and including them in the topic, but I don't feel I have more say in this than any other editors.--IDVtalk 16:18, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- I'm alright with it as it stands. These are the mainline titles, and they're all GA. Trying to bring all the games under a single banner will drag this nomination out indefinitely, particularly as there are three known Fire Emblem games that will release in the near future. --ProtoDrake (talk) 16:44, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- ProtoDrake is the main contributor, I only helped with some copyediting etc and taking two of the articles through GAN. I think it makes sense to get Tokyo Mirage Sessions FE and Fire Emblem Heroes up to GA and including them in the topic, but I don't feel I have more say in this than any other editors.--IDVtalk 16:18, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Since you're one of the main contributors to making these articles, do you think the nomination should be closed? GamerPro64 16:12, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- 👏👏👏 ProtoDrake did much (almost all?) of this on his own, and deserves a ton of credit. I disagree with the scope of the topic. "Main Fire Emblem series" is not independently notable but the series is, hence why we have an article on the series but not on the "main games". Scope should include Heroes, Echoes, the remakes with their own articles, etc. I don't think Tokyo Mirage should be included—there's a difference between a spin-off that uses characters/elements from the series and a spin-off that is a minor release perhaps not in the main releases but still in the series overall. Consider closing this nom until the other articles are ready/reviewed, and please verify with the main contributor (ProtoDrake) before nominating on their behalf. (Also FT intro paragraph should be expanded.)
czar 17:01, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- @Czar: What are your thoughts on Marth (Fire Emblem)? It would be the only remaining FE article after FE Heroes and the remakes.--IDVtalk 22:48, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Personally, I would choose to cover him as Ness is covered in EarthBound#Ness, which is to say that the character was made popular by Super Smash Bros, is known for this association, but there is little to say about that in any depth. The Ness section puts succinctly the most important details about the character and its affiliations without descending into the in-universe (Wikia-style) detail that haunts the current Marth article. I think someone could make a case for keeping it, as it's in that gray area, but I would just ask what benefit there is to see in coat racking for the in-universe detail when everything that needs to be said can be said within the character/plot section from one of Marth's games or the series article. If the article is kept, I'd include it within the topic scope (all independently notable elements of the series). czar 23:15, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- The current intro does not explain how the articles are linked together. Nergaal (talk) 10:06, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
- Wording may be better, but I've changed it to say: "...the series consists of twelve games plus two remakes and a spin-off game across multiple game systems." --haha169 (talk) 12:33, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
- Needs a book, but looking good so far. Jclemens (talk) 03:06, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not very familiar with books, but I found this: Book:Fire Emblem already made. --haha169 (talk) 12:57, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Fixed that for ya. And having helped another Nintendo series get a (currently demoted) GT, think I'll Support your nomination. igordebraga ≠ 02:38, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not very familiar with books, but I found this: Book:Fire Emblem already made. --haha169 (talk) 12:57, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
- Director Comment - Only one Support has been made for this topic. This nomination needs more discussion for a consensus to be made. GamerPro64 17:21, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support --PresN 01:19, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support a bunch of nice plus signs a good topic make! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:58, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
- Closed with a consensus to promote to Good Topic - GamerPro64 15:42, 5 June 2017 (UTC)