Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Bean Station, Tennessee/1
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- Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 02:56, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
I am nominating this article for reassessment predominantly over prose concerns. Specifically, the massive overuse and misuse of the word "would". Would is a future tense word, yet it is frequently misused to describe past tense actions. Sentences such as The tavern, being popular with politicians while campaigning or traveling across the country, would provide heated encounters with political rivals who would stay at the tavern as well.
and The Peavine Railroad would end service in 1928, and the lines would be either demolished or washed out following the inundation of the Holston River by the Tennessee Valley Authority in 1942.
are exceptionally poorly written and do not meet GA standards as I understand them. Consider also the extreme example of The accident is considered one of the deadliest and worst traffic collisions in the history of the state of Tennessee. The collision, the deadliest in state history...
It is clear to me this article needs a fundamental rewrite. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 01:12, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- I made some prose improvements following this article being mentioned on the Discord, but I'm not sure it's enough to save it. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:49, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- I don't think a number of the sources used are properly reliable. For instance:
- "Seitz, Robert. "Tate Springs Resort and Hotel 1865-1941". Kingswood School History. Archived from the original on March 27, 2015. Retrieved December 21, 2020." - looks like someone's personal history website
- " "Private Acts: Highways & Roads". Grainger County Genealogy & History. May 9, 2011. Retrieved May 5, 2021." - local genealogy website; this sort of source usually is not RS
- " "Bean Station, TN to Tazewell, TN". Walk Over States." - wordpress, no reason to think this blog would be RS
- " "Bean Station, TN". DataUSA.io. Retrieved May 18, 2020." - I don't know what this is, but I doubt it is RS
- " Morfe, Don (October 20, 2013). "Battle of Bean's Station". The Historical Marker Database. Retrieved December 28, 2020." - user generated, not RS
- " Morfe, Don (October 20, 2013). "Bean Station". The Historical Marker Database. Retrieved December 28, 2020." - see above
- " "Locations". bookofthedead.ws. Retrieved July 12, 2020." - any reason why we should think this is RS?
- This clearly needs substantive work. Hog Farm Talk 04:03, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- I'll try to take a look at this in the next few days and see if I can do enough to save it. The original promoter has retired, although I have strongly encouraged them to reconsider this decision. Bneu2013 (talk) 05:21, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
- Update - I'm going to copyedit this article over the next few hours or so. Bneu2013 (talk) 00:55, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Update - just finished the history section, and plan to move on to the rest of the article tomorrow. After thoroughly reading over this article, I must conclude that this is going to be a difficult one to save. I'm thinking about a GOCE request, but these have been taking months to answer lately. Bneu2013 (talk) 02:15, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- I appreciate your efforts to improve the article. I'm happy to leave this open as long as progress is being made. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:49, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Update - just finished the history section, and plan to move on to the rest of the article tomorrow. After thoroughly reading over this article, I must conclude that this is going to be a difficult one to save. I'm thinking about a GOCE request, but these have been taking months to answer lately. Bneu2013 (talk) 02:15, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Update - I'm going to copyedit this article over the next few hours or so. Bneu2013 (talk) 00:55, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
Update - Trainsandotherthings, Premeditated Chaos, Hog Farm - It took longer than I thought (I almost forgot), but I have made a bunch of other improvements to pretty much every section. However, I'm on the fence about !voting to keep or delist. I would like to hear everyone else's opinion about whether or not any additional improvements are needed. Bneu2013 (talk) 01:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- All of the sources that I expressed reliability concerns about above are still in the article except for bookofthedead.ws; these need either replaced or satisfactorily defended. Hog Farm Talk 03:57, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll take a look shortly. Bneu2013 (talk) 05:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
- Do you still intend to do so Bneu2013? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:52, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- @AirshipJungleman29: - yes, sorry forgot about this. But unfortunately, I still think I'm going to have to reluctantly lean towards delisting to B-class. Bneu2013 (talk) 18:06, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Do you still intend to do so Bneu2013? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:52, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
- Ok, I'll take a look shortly. Bneu2013 (talk) 05:09, 19 January 2024 (UTC)