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Bart Simpson

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I've listed this article for peer review because it is of top importance to the the Simpsons Wikiproject, and is one of the main characters in the series.

Thanks, Cheers, Kodster ^{(heLLo) (Me did that)} 22:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

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Comments from Juliancolton (talk · contribs)

• For the fairly long length of the article, I'd like to see at least two paragraphs in the lead.
• During the first two seasons of The Simpsons, Bart was the show's main character; while later episodes started to focus more on Homer, Bart remains one of the most enduring characters on the series, and has proven to be one of the most well known characters in the history of American television animation. could be split up into two sentences.
• Almost the entire "Personality" section is unsourced. Also, some of it sounds POVish.
• The rest is actually pretty good. That's it from me. If you found these comments especially constructive, you might want to consider reviewing an article from Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog, which is where I found this article. Cheers, Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 21:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Comments from Collectonian (talk · contribs)

My first though was "looks better than quite a few character articles". My second thought was "need to tag this for excessive plot." The "Personality" section is 1314 words of plot summary, with only a single citation. For a character article, the plot summary should be concise, and every statement cited. The rest of the article, sans lead, infobox and references, is only 664 words. That's 664 words of good, out-of-universe information against more than twice as much in-universe when, if anything, the opposite should be true. There is a great wealth more than can be said about Bart Simpson, as he meets WP:FICT and beyond, but here we have only a smattering of out-of-universe information. Bart has been the subject of university studies, papers, and all kinds of stuff. Google Books is a good place to start :)

As a whole, I think it is at a great start. I highly applaud the use of nothing but reliable sources adn the primary work (not a single fansite, yay!). :) For ways to being it up to possible GA/FA, the plot needs to be cut down, the page reorganized an expanded on the real world size, and the lead expanded to follow. For some examples of high end character articles I'd recommend being influenced by, see: Himura Kenshin, Orochimaru (Naruto), and Rukia Kuchiki. Those are all recent character GAs properly organized and with an excellent balance between real-world and in-universe information. Also notice that the plot summaries are also sourced, and written from an out-of-universe perspective rather than being only summary. I hope that helps some, and feel free to reply here if you have any questions or if any clarification is needed. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 00:08, 28 May 2008 (UTC)