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Brighton hotel bombing

This October it'll be forty years since the IRA's attempted assassination attempt on the British Prime Minister and cabinet. This article has been through a complete re-write recently, with the widest range of high-quality sources used; a run at FAC is envisioned as the next step, with the hope for a main page appearance on the anniversary. Any thoughts and comments are most welcome. - SchroCat (talk) 09:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Tim O'Doherty

Will get round to this when I've finished my review of Genghis Khan. I'm old enough to have been told the "What do you call a man with a hotel on his head?" joke when I was younger - hard to imagine a similar reaction to the same event today! Ping me if I've not moved by next week. Cheers - Tim O'Doherty (talk) 22:18, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Ceoil

Placeholder; reading through. And to say I'm about as anti-IRA/Republican as they come, but some suggested rephrasing, notes of clarity etc from a tone/POV perspective. Ceoil (talk) 21:45, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Lead

• Her stance against their demands meant the strike was not quickly settled, and ten prisoners died - "Her stance against their demands meant the hunger strike was not quickly settled leading to the deaths of ten prisoners".

• Should we also mention here what their demands were (political rather than criminal status)? I'd prefer, but am not so bothered about this level of clarity in the lead.

• Phrasing: After two years of planning, which included reconnoitring the 1982 and 1983 Conservative Party Conferences in Brighton and Blackpool, respectively, a long-delay time bomb was planted in the hotel by the IRA member Patrick Magee over three weeks before the 1984 Conservative Party conference. After two years of planning, including reconnoitring the 1982 and 1983 Conservative Party Conferences in Brighton and Blackpool, a long-delay time bomb was planted in the hotel by the IRA member Patrick Magee over three weeks before the 1984 Conservative Party conference.
• Phrasing: The IRA knew the hotel would be occupied by attendees, including Thatcher and many of her cabinet ..."The IRA knew the hotel would be occupied by Thatcher and members of her cabinet."
• killing and injuring the occupants - say here how many killed/injured Ceoil (talk) 21:45, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

  We cover that in the first para - not sure we need to repeat it so soon? - SchroCat (talk) 15:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Patrick Magee

• If there are "tonal" objections its likely in this brief bio. Have made some edits that you might want to review,[1] but they are mostly around tightening prose and run-on sentences.

  They're all good, thanks - SchroCat (talk) 15:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

• Context you have in the notes IMO is directly relevant and worth moving into the main text: "In the mid-1970s the IRA changed its structure from battalion to cell-based system. Each cell—also called an ASU—comprised four volunteers, of which only the leader was in contact with the level above." Ceoil (talk) 22:11, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

Thatcher's approach to Northern Ireland, 1979–1984

• I would prefer if the words hardline was used in this sect to describe her attitudes towards NI here, especially towards the hunger strikes.

  Thatcher's outlook on Northern Ireland was partly persuaded by her inherent unionist position; she wanted a military victory over the IRA and for "integration", that is, treating Northern Ireland like the rest of the UK, rather than having separate arrangements. - "hatcher's outlook on Northern Ireland had an inherent unionist position; she wanted a military victory over the IRA and sought full "integration", that is, treating Northern Ireland like the rest of the UK rather than having separate arrangements."

  But what does "arrangements" mean here"

• Who is Eamonn Kennedy

  It's there - Irish ambassador to the UK. - SchroCat (talk) 15:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

• Thatcher's unionist stance was an intuitive one for her Ceoil (talk) 22:56, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

  Thanks for these - mostly done as suggested, with a couple of explanations above and a couple where I've put in a variation. - SchroCat (talk) 15:11, 28 June 2024 (UTC)