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Calendar of saints (Anglican Church of Southern Africa)[edit]

I had e-mailed the office of the Anglican Church of Southern Africa regarding possibly getting some information to create an article like this. They went one step further than I had thought (or even dreamed) they would do and created the article themselves. I'm guessing that this article is probably already as complete as possible, considering who it was who wrote the article in the first place. Having said that, I would be very gratified if anyone could give me some feedback regarding what additional steps would need to be taken to possibly get this article up to GA or FA standards. Thank you. John Carter 15:39, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • There isn't nearly enough prose for a FA, and having everything based on a single source isn't a good idea. Featured list perhaps? —Angr 17:44, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
    • Question: Even if, as seems to be the case here, that source is, as it were, the organization who created the document which the article refers to? I'm not trying to be snide or anything like that, I honestly don't know. And, as that wasn't a possibility that occurred to me, if anyone has any suggetions of how to bring this page up to featured list status, those suggestions would be more than welcome as well. And thank you to Angr for the response. John Carter 17:56, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • This calendar is an 'in-house' document ... so nothing regarding further sources I'm afraid. A significant portion of it is common across the Anglican Communion. Following on from the inital e-mail received and then in discovering the List page, I had assumed that the calendar for each province was merely being sought, and that a general introductory article about liturgical calenders would exist separately from the provincial calendars themselves - hence the lack of prose. I took a peek at the (few) existing calendars and kept to a similar format. Dunnock 14:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Put the info in tables like we have over at List of Archbishops of Canterbury. That would make it look more featured list. -- SECisek 19:03, 28 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • It seems to me an encyclopedia article should contain more information than would be found simply by looking in the South African Prayer Book itself. Otherwise, we have merely duplicated what the prayer book already says. An encyclopedia article should have some background (How did this list come into being? Were there arguments about what to include or leave out? How has it changed over the years? Was it affected by the politics of Apartheid before 1994, and has it been affected by the end of Apartheid since then?), some comparison (How does Southern Africa's calendar of saints differ from that of the Church of England, from which it is presumably derived, and why?), that sort of thing. And that will require more sources than the prayer book itself. —Angr 07:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The Great Festival section is a direct copy ... I will conflate that. The remainder is a bringing together and an organising of the calendar rules. The two acknowledged quotes are direct from the preface, the remainder is a re-writing (and some reorganising). I looked at the Canterbury list, and that seems cumbersome ... I followed the format of the other calendars for consistency. I will follow up with the Liturgical Committee as to the rationale/inclusion of the Southern African commemorations ... although it is the bishops who would have debated and decided - and there is a 30 year moratorium on their minutes! I appreciate the interest and the suggestions, this is all rather new to me! Dunnock 14:01, 30 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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