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Gerard Butler filmography

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I've listed this article for peer review because I think it's a good representation of his career thus far and would like to get this list to FL. Love to have any input or thoughts. Thanks! LADY LOTUS • TALK 16:29, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

Comments by Cowlibob

• rowscopes should be on title not on the year of release.
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Title is meant to be first column as you had it before just add row scopes to it. 2nd column should be year. Sorry if I wasn't clear. Cowlibob (talk) 16:06, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Ack! Ok fixed now :) LADY LOTUS • TALK 20:17, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

• Check [[1]], [[2]] to ensure all film and television roles are included
  •  Done there are only 2 roles not present, they are hidden in the table only because I could not find a reliable source to save my life on those roles. But neither of them have their own article so I figured it'd be ok just to hide them until a good source can be found. LADY LOTUS • TALK 15:48, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
• According to these [[3]], [[4]], [[5]] he had a short theater career by starring in Coriolanus and Trainspotting before film and television that you should try and source where and when and add it as a separate section plus mention in the lead. I think it was SchroCat who told me that often actors learn their craft from theatre before films/television so shouldn't be ignored.
• You should be able to combine his producer roles into the main table.
  •  Done
• Ensure that roles sort by first name
  • Cowlibob I've always been told to do it by last name?

You're correct, my mistake. Cowlibob (talk) 16:06, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

• Ensure that roles (including full name), appearances in the film/television, any additional roles such as producer are sourced.
  • Already done. Each ref is referencing the title of the film AND the role he played along with when he produced it.
• 300 wasn't simply that he won awards, it was his first box office success and breakthrough role.[[6]].
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• Image is probably too big.
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Cowlibob (talk) 14:47, 13 April 2015 (UTC)

Comments from SchroCat

As expected, there's not a huge amount for me to comment on here – all is in excellent form. That means I have to be overly pedantic and picky to find anything and look vaguely like I know what I'm talking about, which is a struggle at the best of times...

• As per Cowlibob, it may be worth doing some searches for any theatre work to add in there. I recall hearng thsat he was involved in the Scottish Youth Theatre before his film work;
  • The only theatre I found for him was just the two roles in Trainspotting and Coriolanus but when looking up references, I couldn't find anything reliable that stated what year. So I didn't know if it'd be worth mentioning, wanted to get both yours and Cowlibob's thoughts on that? LADY LOTUS • TALK 11:38, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Here's some info. I think Trainspotting was at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe but I don't know which particular theater [[7]]. He was part of this production [[8]] of Coriolanus but unfortunately he's not named as part of the cast so it must have been a minor role.[[9]], here he mentions at 1:17 Coriolanus as his first acting role [[10]]. So I think the timeline was 1996 (Coriolanus at Mermaid Theatre, London) and then (Trainspotting at Edinburgh Fringe) before his television and film debut. Cowlibob (talk) 17:11, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Awesome. So next question: would those 2 roles be worth having a separate table for? And then how about something like this for the lead:

The Scottish actor Gerard Butler has appeared in numerous films and television series. He started out in acting by appearing in the theatre productions of Trainspotting (1996) and Coriolanus (1996) before being cast in small roles in productions such as Mrs. Brown (1997), the James Bond film Tomorrow Never Dies (1997), and Tale of the Mummy (1998). Thoughts? LADY LOTUS • TALK 17:25, 15 April 2015 (UTC)

Something like that could work. We can iron out the lead at the FLC. Good news! I found sources for the two missing roles. Little White Lies was a two part television film: [[11]], [[12]]. Please! was a 1999 short film where he was credited as "Gerry Butler". Here's a source with this info from the official website of the director which can be used as a primary source. [[13]]. Cowlibob (talk) 07:47, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

Awesome, I just added them :) LADY LOTUS • TALK 11:49, 16 April 2015 (UTC)

• I'm not sure you need the comma in "numerous films, and television series";
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• There's a few places where the curly quotes (I guess from a cut and paste) are present (see Gerard Butler’s ‘Geostorm’ Casts ‘World War Z’ Actress for an example);
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• I'm not sure you need publisher details for websites/newspapers: I think I've seen them being taken out because of a discussion somewhere, but I'm not 100% sure, so it may be worth checking;
  • Unless I just wasn't looking in the right places, I couldn't find anything about not needing publisher details. I don't think it'll hurt to have them in there but I could always take them out later if they become an issue or anything
• FN 12 has some shouty caps that can go to title or lower case.
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That's it. Hope to see it at FLC soon. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 10:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Lol well thanks so much for looking over it with a fine tooth comb. LADY LOTUS • TALK 11:38, 14 April 2015 (UTC)