Wikipedia:Peer review/Heart of Midlothian F.C./archive1

Heart of Midlothian F.C.

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I Have listed this article for peer review as looking to get all Scottish Premier League up to GA Standard.

Thanks, Warburton1368 (talk) 16:28, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

Comments by Oldelpaso

I'm afraid there's an awful lot of work to be done before this article would be ready for a GA nomination.

• First an foremost, the article is very under-referenced, with whole sections lacking a single reference. Any statement that a sceptical reader could question needs a reference. In practice this means more or less anything that would not be common knowledge to a reader unfamiliar with the topic.
• Pretty much every paragraph is in its own subsection. This makes for a very disjointed read – imagine how jarring it would be reading a chapter of a book where there was a title above every new paragraph. There shouldn't be any need for subsections within the history section.
• The lead does not adequately summarise the article as a whole, see WP:LEAD or look at any of the featured articles about football clubs.
• The last 20 years have almost as much coverage as the preceding 120. This should be balanced out.
• Remove the list of kit sponsors, it is needless trivia
  • Done. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 19:26, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
• The table of cup final results seems superfluous given that titles and runner-up are listed in the Honours section immediately above it. Any of the cup final results that are of particular note should be covered in the History section.
  • Removed. I have also removed the list of third places in the league, as I really don't see in what way that could construed to be an honour. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 19:17, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
• As an outsider to Scottish football, I've always known Hearts as part of what might be considered a "second tier" of Scottish clubs, after the Old Firm. Hearts are usually among the clubs playing for third place, and occasionally seeking to take advantage of any dips by the Old Firm. I don't really get a sense of this when reading the article, so something helping to put across Hearts' standing within Scottish football would be useful.
• The Club culture section reads more like a list of trivia than a coherent section, again not helped by unnecessary headings.
  • Moved colours / badge to a separate section and rewrote the rest into a supporters / culture section. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:56, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
• The following clubs are affiliated with Hearts - how, exactly?
  • Commonality of ownership and transfers between the clubs (particularly FBK Kaunas to Hearts). Jmorrison230582 (talk) 19:11, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
• For lists of staff, my own personal rule of thumb is that those not notable enough for their own article should not be included.

Hope this helps. Oldelpaso (talk) 12:28, 6 August 2011 (UTC)