Wikipedia:Peer review/Hibernian F.C./archive1

Hibernian F.C.

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I've listed this article for peer review because I am hoping to move it towards FA status. It already passed GA and I have finally got around to making some of the changes suggested in the summer of 2008 by User:Dweller.

Thanks, Jmorrison230582 (talk) 17:07, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

• One thing that jumps out is that the history section seems unduly weighted towards recent events. One example: "Hibs got off to an excellent start in the following season, which prompted speculation that they could challenge for the championship. Injuries and the sale of Garry O'Connor to Lokomotiv Moscow exposed a lack of depth in the squad, which meant that the club finished a distant fourth in the SPL and were beaten by Hearts in the Scottish Cup.". So essentially, you're saying that in that season nothing of note happened. Would you give a similar level of coverage to a season in which nothing of note happened in the 1920s? You need to ensure an even coverage of all eras of the club's history and not give excessive coverage to recent seasons just because they were recent...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:01, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Fair comment, the auto checker thingy is suggesting that there were too many sub sections. Perhaps if I merge the recent history into one section and get rid of some of the less significant content... Jmorrison230582 (talk) 09:55, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

• The main thing that struck me was that the wikilinking needs looking at: see WP:LINK. Things like: don't link ordinary English words (like "green" and "white" in the Colours section); in the prose, only link the first occurrence of an item, unless there's a good reason to link it again; make sure the reader knows what to expect when they click on a link (see WP:LINK#Piped links). Some FA reviewers are quite keen on cutting down the amount of blue in an article: see Tony's comments towards the bottom of Arsenal F.C.'s FAR.
• In the references, single book pages should have a single p, so p98 not pp98; page ranges should have an endash not a hyphen (WP:DASH); titles in all capital letters should be rewritten with capitals just at the start of words (WP:ALLCAPS).
• When you reference e.g. the SPL or Edinburgh City Council websites, the site owners are publishers rather than works, so shouldn't be in italics.
• Make sure you can justify your sources as reliable; personal websites and fansites tend not to be.
• First-team squad and Honours sections are unreferenced, and a few of the Records don't have sources.
• And once you think it's nearly ready to submit, get someone to give the prose a copyedit. It's impossible to check your own :-) hope some of this helps, Struway2 (talk) 14:20, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Struway2, I have tried to address all of those points apart from a third party copyedit. Hibs handily removed their honours page when they moved the whole site from hibs.co.uk to hibernianfc.co.uk a few months ago (rolls eyes). Jmorrison230582 (talk) 10:19, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks also for finding the web archive link to the previous honours page. I haven't included the Tennents' Sixes and BP Youth Cup mentioned in that link because the first of those competitions was for an indoor six-a-side tournament, (similar to Masters Football, but with the current players!) and the second is for 18 year old players (similar to the FA Youth Cup). Jmorrison230582 (talk) 08:24, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

User:SMasters has undertaken a copyedit of the article. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 12:33, 17 March 2010 (UTC)