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List of Major League Baseball awards[edit]

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I'm asking for a peer review for this list because I do the same every time I spend a while working on a new format for a list. When it's the same old stuff (lead, tables, refs, done), I usually skip peer review, but I'm acutely aware of the value of this process when doing something new or unfamiliar. I would appreciate any info that any reviewers are willing to give. This is eventually to be presented as the lead article of a featured topic regarding Major League Baseball awards (but not all baseball awards). The criteria for inclusion is determined by using the awards page from the official Major League Baseball website; other awards, such as the Sporting News awards, the Heart and Hustle Award, the Branch Rickey Award, etc., will eventually be included under a larger topic, entitled simply "Baseball awards".

Thanks, KV5 (Talk • Phils) 23:32, 28 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please standarize the dates in the references. You sometimes have September 22, 2009 and other times 2009-08-20.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 15:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"Unlike its National League counterpart, a new trophy is awarded each year." needs a reference.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 15:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, that's why I fact-tagged it. I asked the inserter of the fact to provide one, but he has not, so I may remove it. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 15:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Some paragraphs don't have references such as "Comeback Player of the Year", "Rolaids Relief Man" and "All-Star Game MVP".--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 15:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please reference every fact in the list to conform with Wikipedia:Verifiability.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 15:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Nothing in the featured list criteria or in WP:V says that every fact must be referenced. The policy on verifiability states merely that sources are needed "for quotations and for any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed." KV5 (Talk • Phils) 15:38, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"one each to the National League and American League champions, and one of the champion of the World Series" "and one for"--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 15:21, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll give {{fact}} tags for every fact that may be challenged.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 15:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Have referenced all fact-tagged locations. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 18:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please indicate when these trophies were introduced: Warren C. Giles Trophy, William Harridge Trophy and to whom it was first awarded.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 19:18, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The info is unavailable. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 20:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"The 2008 winners of the Hank Aaron Award include Aramis Ramírez of the Cubs (NL) and Kevin Youkilis of the Red Sox (AL)." Aren't they the only two? And isn't it awarded only to two?--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 19:18, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure what you mean here. The award is presented each year to two players, but Youkilis and Ramírez are not the only two to win the award. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 20:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I meant change "The 2008 winners of the Hank Aaron Award include Aramis Ramírez of the Cubs (NL) and Kevin Youkilis of the Red Sox (AL)." to "The 2008 winners of the Hank Aaron Award are Aramis Ramírez of the Cubs (NL) and Kevin Youkilis of the Red Sox (AL)." Since they are the 2008 winners, as far as I understand.
Oh. Got it. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 00:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"The Philadelphia Phillies, having won the 2008 World Series, and members of their team have the most current awards held in Major League Baseball. " needs fixing--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 19:18, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- How so? KV5 (Talk • Phils) 20:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - There isn't an object in the sentence. Maybe "Members of the Philadelphia Phillis have the most awards held in Major League Baseball."--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 20:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Yes, there is an object. "The Philadelphia Phillies": subject. "members of their team": also subject (compound). "have": verb. "awards": object. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 23:34, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      - Aaah, I get now what's meant. But there is a problem with the verb "having". It should be "have".--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 00:16, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        No, "having won the World Series" is a descriptive phrase, and serves only to modify the subject. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 00:34, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
        Ok, I understand the sentence structure now. Everything looks good...--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 00:46, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Your lead is 1/3 about the Phillies and their awards, 1/3 about the different awards and 1/3 about the two kinds of awards (Idividual and Team)). Please expand the middle topic here. You should the Commissioner's trophy and explain why it's different from the other awards. --Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 19:18, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That's what the paragraph about the trophy is for. The lead is a summary. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 20:07, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Yes the lead is a summary of the whole list so you should include information about different kinds of awards. The "Commissioner's Historic Achievement" is listed under "Other awards" which doesn't have anything in the lead... Anyway, the list is of high quality and could be promoted to be an FL. --Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 20:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    - Oh, I get it. I was unclear as to what you meant. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 23:34, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Aaron Hill should be disambiguated.--Diaa abdelmoneim (talk) 20:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Done. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 23:34, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]