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List of The Simpsons guest stars

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After a re-design and full sourcing in collaboration with Lemonade51, I'd like to say this list is done. But it's been a long time since I've had an FLC so, rather than wasting time with what may well be a quick-fail, I thought it best to have a PR first. So... basically any advice/policy failures would be great. Thanks, Gran² 10:58, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

• There could be a section/table with the few people who have guest starred at least 3 times. Nergaal (talk) 00:26, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I've added a section in. Gran² 10:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: Thanks for your work on this interesting list; here are some suggestions for improvement.

• There is a circular redirect that needs to be fixed here
  • I fixed the redirect - the bottom template on Simpsons characters linked to a differently named version of this list. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
• The article should have an image in the lead. Assuming it becomes a FL, it can be listed on the Main Page and will need an image then. Since Phil Hartman has the record for most guest appearances, perhaps his photo could be in the lead.
  • Done
• I do not think the lead follows WP:LEAD - per WP:BEGINNING The article should begin with a declarative sentence telling the nonspecialist reader what (or who) the subject is. but guest stars are not even mentioned until the second paragraph of the lead.
  • Well, I'll shuffle it, but I'm just following what seems to be standard practice on a lot of FLs
• I also would make sure that things that have a specific date should include that instead of vague time terms like "currently". SO the Guiness Book of World Records status is "currently", but the actual ref says this is season 21, as of May 2010, and adds that at least 555 guest stars have appeared on the Simpsons as of that date.
  • Done.
• I would also include the 555 guest stars number in the article, since it is in a reliable source.
  • Done. I've calculated the full, up to date total. Does that count as OR? I mean, there all in the article and all source there.
• Most of the show background in the first paragraph of the lead seems to me as if would be better in the History - nothing important should be in the lead only - since it is a summary, it should all be repeated in the body of the article itself
  • But it's context for the list itself, which seems to be standard in most FLs.
• Awkward phrase ...while actor Seth Rogen co-wrote with Evan Goldberg the episode "Homer the Whopper".[14] would be better as something like ...while actor Seth Rogen co-wrote the episode "Homer the Whopper" with Evan Goldberg.[14]
  • Done
• There is room for more photos ;-)
  • Will do
• Did anyone change from a guest star to a regular cast member?
  • Nope
• Please make sure that the existing text includes no copyright violations, plagiarism, or close paraphrasing. For more information on this please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2009-04-13/Dispatches. (This is a general warning given in all peer reviews, in view of previous problems that have risen over copyvios.)

Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). I do not watch peer reviews, so if you have questions or comments, please contact me on my talk page. Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the review. Gran² 17:46, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

As requested, I took a second look. The article looks better to me. I have one suggestion

At the conclusion of season 23, 596 different guest stars have appeared on the show (if the members of bands with speaking roles are counted separately, but bands who merely perform a song are counted as one). This figure rises to 601 if The Simpsons Movie is counted as well.

might read better as something like

At the conclusion of season 23, there have been 596 guest stars appearances on the show (if the members of bands with speaking roles are counted separately, but bands who merely perform a song are counted as one). This figure rises to 601 if The Simpsons Movie is counted.

I think some people would count a person who appeared more than once as a single guest star, but what is being counted here is the number of guest star appearances (so Phil Hartman is 52 guest star appearances, not 1 guest star). Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:50, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

• 596 is the number of different individuals who have guest starred (so Phil Hartman is counted as one in this figure). If all appearances are counted (so, Hartman counts as 52) the number is 847. This is in the 'History' section, but I only included the figure for distinct people in the lead. Gran² 14:58, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks for the clarification - perhaps then it would read better as something like

At the conclusion of season 23, 596 different people have appeared as guest stars on the show (if the members of bands with speaking roles are counted separately, but bands who merely perform a song are counted as one). This figure rises to 601 if The Simpsons Movie is counted.

Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 15:13, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

• • • Done, thanks again for your help! Gran² 15:28, 28 May 2012 (UTC)