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The Amazing Spider-Man (2012 film)

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I've listed this article for peer review because I along with other editor's have worked hard for the article and kept in the watch. I just want to hear some thoughts on how is it doing for now on getting ready for good article when it is released. Is there any problems that needs to be fixed or is there something missing for it to be qualified etc. Thanks, Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 16:33, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't you wait until the movie is release? Once it does, the article will be updated frequently and will be unstable. Best, Jonayo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 00:39, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

I know it's not finished or not ready for GA. I among other editors will keep watch that it will be a reliable article. I just wanted to know is it stable for the time being. Does it pass every guideline etc. It seemed like a good idea at the time but I feel like it can wait and be archived if there will be no other thoughts about it. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 01:25, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

At first glance, words such as "skinny" and "spandex" are common words and don't need to be wikilinked. Best, Jonayo! ^{Selena 4 ever} 01:29, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I removed them. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 01:45, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

• Impressive that it is this far along before the film has been released. I'll try to do a full review in the next few days. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:01, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
• Comments: (Note that I haven't worked much on film articles before, so I am unfamiliar with some of the details of how these articles usually work.)
• I think the article could use a general copyedit. You could try listed it at WP:GOCE/REQ, but they're so backlogged it could take months before someone looks at it. The best idea would be to find someone who has experience getting articles on similar subjects promoted and ask them to take a look. Also, User:Tony1 has some helpful writing exercises on his page.
  • I do plan to request copyediting after the film's release. I love the suggestion. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 19:27, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
• Make sure that you follow WP:MOSCAPTIONs.
• The use of the word "currently" is frowned upon, best to say "As of May 2011" (or whenever).
  • Just to save time to look for it where are you talking about if I never find it before you answer it? I would like to note that currently does seem to be more common on film articles though. But to be on the safe side I would change it once I know where it's at. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 18:43, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

• I think the one I saw was in the Music section. It says he is "currently in talks" and was posted in September. I would assume the talks have concluded by now. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:30, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

• Try to make sure you use logical quotation (it is tricky though).
  • Did you notice any of that on the article? Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 18:43, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

• I did notice "the villain's wife." You might want to move the period outside the quote there. Mark Arsten (talk) 20:30, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I wouldn't have noticed it if you haven't mentioned it. ;) Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

• Try to cut down on the use of the word "Also". Maybe do a control+F and then see how many you can remove without changing the meaning of sentences.
  • I will be hunting for that word. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 18:43, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
    • There's less of that word now. I hope the substitute words will do. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
• Be consistent with the use of serial comma.
• Watch for consistency with commas when beginning sentences with time statments, i.e. "In February 2011,"
  • Fixed. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
• Maybe use a wikilink for Reboot (fiction)?
  • Added that. I think it was removed once for being accused of being a common word though Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
• "Garfield was 27 after being cast as Spider-Man, which raised concerns about his ability to play a high school student." This isn't clear to me, did he turn 27 after getting the role, or do you mean he was 27 when he was cast?
  • Is it clearer now? :) Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
• Overall, the article is pretty heavy on the quotations, maybe try to trim them down a bit.
• Also, I'm not sure of the guidelines, but I don't know if all the information in the Cast section is a good idea.
• Check the names of websites for compliance with MOS:ITALICs
• Generally, you should use someone's first and last name at the first mention, then switch to just the last name. In "Pre-production" you have "Rhys Ifans" twice.

I fixed that. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

• There's a fairly long quote in the Video Game section, I'm not sure that's necessary.
  • I agree. Made it less longer. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
• Check the references section for consistent formatting. There's no need to put a period after months or state the day of the week.
  • Did you notice any of that or is that just a caution? Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 21:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
• It might be worth double-checking that all the sources you use meet WP:RS. I don't know much about sourcing in this area, but it might be a good idea to see if they're used on current Featured or Good articles. Or check the archives at WP:RSN.
  • Alright, I think this article is coming along fine. Feel free to drop me a note on my talk page if you have any questions. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:21, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
• Also, it looks like [1] and [2] are dead links. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:28, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I am hoping to find the archives of those. I even asked a certain editor for help on finding them. Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 19:27, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

• RE: your question on my talk page. This is more of a suggestion on my part than a rule or guideline, it may not make that much of a difference in a GA review. Although, GA reviewers do have varying standards. I'm looking at Spider-Man (film) and it doesn't look like there are quotes in the cast section. I'd probably cut the last quotes for Garfield, Stone, and Ifans though. Maybe try to paraphrase some quotes in the last section of Filming and Video Game, as well? Mark Arsten (talk) 20:30, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

• • This article and this article is more of what I had in mind when creating quotes on cast sections. Spider-Man (film) has been a good article for a while and could be outdated for one while these article's have recently been GA's. I will think about doing some paraprasing though.... ;) Jhenderson ⁷⁷⁷ 20:48, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

• Alright, I guess your version is closer to the normal size than I had thought. I'll make a mental note of those articles. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 20:55, 16 January 2012 (UTC)