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The Preuss School UCSD

I've listed this article for peer review because it is already a GA and I hope to try and attempt to make it one of the few FA-quality high school articles. It is pretty highly referenced, but if there are any statements that show bias I would appreciate them being pointed out. I am also looking for any advise on any general problems or suggestions that could be made to make the FA-nomination as painless as possible.

Thanks, SorryGuy 21:14, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

• Please see automated peer review suggestions here. Thanks, APR _t 00:53, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

• For FAC, citations will need to be fully formatted; blue-linked URLs aren't acceptable. See WP:CITE/ES and Dartmouth College. Attention to prose is also needed; listing the article at WP:LOCE may be helpful before approaching FAC. See WP:MOS#Captions on punctuation of sentence fragments. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

• I would also add that many of the references are internal to the school which makes them much less valuable as far as verifiability goes. Most good FA candidates have closer to fifty references, and much more extensive histories. Print sources are valuable as references as well. I agree that the prose could stand to be improved, and that the citations need a little work. Adam McCormick 05:39, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
  • As I addressed below, it is my feeling that links from the university of UCSD should not count as internal to the school. Plano has 42, Stuyvesant has 68, Hopkins School has 15. I feel as though those articles are all far longer too as they are far older of schools. This also accounts for the why they have much longer histories and books on them. SorryGuy 18:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Twenty Years

Here are some of my suggestions:

• Section 1.1 is named "Controversies", it sounds better as "Controversy". Another issue is that the Controversies section is about half the length of the history section, might need to be looked at in terms of undue weight.
  • I don't think it does, just considering the amount of coverage for the negative issues as for the positive ones. A google news search should show how the two controversies have the most references, by far. SorryGuy 18:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
• The information on the schedule is plain boring. The length of the class day and days in the school year is good, but the rest if worthless. Merge the good info somewhere (possibly student life).
• Faculty has some slight problems: Mentioning the name of the staff member who leads the self-development is Janis Gabbay is slightly strange, just remove it, its going to change eventually, so just get rid of it now.
  • I only mentioned it as she was a national teacher of the year, but you're probably right. SorryGuy 18:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
• References, now this is the biggest issue. It appears that most of your references are to sources internal to the school, which simply doesnt cut it for GA or FA standard. This needs to be addressed.
  • This isn't actually true. There is only one reference to the school website. There are references to UCSD's news service and the student paper on campus, but neither of those are really linked to the school. I think they satisfy reliability requirements. I'm open to opinion on it though. SorryGuy 18:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
• Pictures would be nice, possibly a picture of an athletics team (for athletics section), and a picture of a significant building (for the history section)
  • I have pictures of at least hallways. I could probably get one from outside a building if that's better? SorryGuy 18:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

If you need furter clarification on any of these issues, just contact me on my talk page. Thank you. Twenty Years 15:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Twenty Years (2)

• Agree, a picture of the outside of a building/s would be good. Generally the administration block is the best, any heritage listed buildings, or the first building erected on the site. Hallways, probably not worth it.
• A reference is needed for the student numbers. Im from Australia, and generally our government education departments have statistics on student numbers, possibly the school will also publish them on their website.
• Generally, its very hard to get a school article to FA status, good to see you have got GA. Keep up the good work. Twenty Years 04:51, 1 November 2007 (UTC)