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Thrasybulus[edit]

I've been working on this one for a while, and it draws on all the major sources, ancient and modern, that deal with the subject. Thrasybulus is almost completely forgotten today, which is unfortunate, since he strikes me as a really interesting figure. I'd like to get this to FA, and I'm interested to hear what people think it needs. --Robth^Talk 22:25, 31 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article is good, however the first paragraph of "Personal life and early career" badly needs citations if it aspires to be featured. For instance, what are the sources and passages for "His father was named Lycus", "he was a native of the deme of Steiria in Athens", "his daughter married a grandson of the notable nobleman Nicias" and "he held the office of trierarch" and "in the third century his son was able to pay a substantial fine of 10 talents"? - Calgacus 16:18, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- Right now, the note at the bottom of the section reads "All otherwise unsourced information in this section is from R. J. Buck, Thrasybulus and the Athenian Democracy"--in other words, same source for all those statements, and others in the section, so I didn't want to clutter it with footnotes. Does this fly, or do I need to scatter a lot more footnotes in there? --Robth^Talk 17:41, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  - The article would be of better quality if the historical sources are referenced for bits of information like this, rather than just the modern author. - Calgacus 17:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - I've added references for the three statements where I know the source; the ones about his children probably come from some obscure fourth century orator, so I'll have to head to the library to look them up. I'll put them in when I have them. --Robth^Talk 19:44, 1 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    - I've now added a cite to Demosthenes for the statement about the ten talent fine, but I haven't added one for the one about his daughter, the reason being that no ancient source explicitly makes that statement; Demosthenes refers to Thrasybulus the younger being the uncle of one Nicestratus, who is known from other sources to be a descendant of Nicias--I've left it cited to Buck, since he's the one who pieces all this together. --Robth^Talk 02:00, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]