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I would like to get this article to GA, and need advice on how to get there. Does anyone have suggestions for what's left to do? —Quasirandom 01:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- The article seems good, meaning it's organized and easy to read, but there are some things that need fixing:
- In the lead, "the manga was put on hold by ADV Manga, much to the chagrin of readers." Do you have any evidence of this? If so, it needs sourcing.
- Aside from frequent complaints on message boards and blogs, not yet. I'll look for something citeable. -Quasirandom 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I try to avoid parenthesis, like "In reference to this fact (or perhaps because of it)" and "teases him about his constant absence (in Chapter 14, she laments that 'Dad isn't with us anymore', whereupon Fuka corrects her, saying, 'He's not dead, just at work!')" You should try to work the information into the prose; it might read better that way. Though I'm not saying you'll have to do it for getting the article to GA.
- Good point. I almost sorta knew it needed doing, but hadn't convinced myself. -Quasirandom 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Cut the Trivia section. If there's anything worth noting, work it into the article.
- Gotcha. -Quasirandom 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- "Miura Hayasaka is boyish and brusque, both in her appearance and her way of speaking (this is very noticeable in the Japanese version)" Could you offer some examples?
- That'll have to come from someone who can read the Japanese version. I'll put it on our to-do list. -Quasirandom 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think Volumes and chapters has enough info to stand on its own. Maybe, combine with Story?
- Hmm. Something to tinker with. We've struggled a little with what information goes there and what in the sub-article. -Quasirandom 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Usually, the media section includes a list of the Japanese and English tankobon complete with ISBN's.
- Gotcha. I'll go dig those up. -Quasirandom 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC) —I ended up added those to the List of Yotsuba&! chapters article, since that seemed a more logical place. -Quasirandom 18:19, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- "'Miss Stake' in a common English fan translation." Is there an official translation? If so, use it.
- The official translation hasn't reached that chapter yet. :( -Quasirandom 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- There's some common words and phrases that don't need wikilinking: sense of humor, mundane, flower shop, air conditioning...
- ... Ya gotta point. I'll take a second look at those. -Quasirandom 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- I haven't read the manga, so what does it mean to be a self-styled six-year-old who's really five years old?
- That is a bit compressed. I'll clarify. (When asked how old she is, she said "... Six?" and only much later was corrected by her father.) -Quasirandom 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- That's what I found.--Nohansen 04:31, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thankee. Much helpful. -Quasirandom 15:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
- There -- aside from finding an actual example for the fourth point, I think most of your suggestions have been addressed. Thanks again for your help. Assuming nothing changes drastically the next week or so, I'll put the article up for GA. —Quasirandom 00:27, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
All of your images need a detailed fair use rationale that complies with all parts of the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria policy, or the GA reviewer can simply quick-fail the article.-Malkinann 09:51, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Could you point me to an image description with the level of detail you're thinking of? I ask, because I've seen FURs that passed fair-use review with details similar to what I gave those I uploaded (and used as my models). There seems to be no small amount of confusion on Wikipedia on this point. —Quasirandom 14:42, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- What I usually do with the fair-use rationale is explain why the image is needed, what purpose it serves. Maybe "It illustrates the series' heroes" (Image:Experts of Justice (Giant Robo).jpg or "it illustrates the film noir style of the series." (Image:Shadowcasting (Big O).JPG)--Nohansen 15:15, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
- Would what I've added to Image:Koiwai-tou-chan.jpg be sufficient? (Is the heading necessary? Nothing I can find says anything explicit, but all the examples have one.) —Quasirandom 01:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)