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June 8[edit]

Blue Haze[edit]

Was the Philip Swern who formed Blue Haze (famous for their reggae version of Smoke Gets in Your Eyes) with Johnny Arthey the same person as Phil Swern, the famous radio and record producer? Thanks, DuncanHill (talk) 01:11, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. [1] Modocc (talk) 02:10, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Modocc: Thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 18:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

IMagi Kingdom of Thor Card Game[edit]

Does Wikipedia have any info on this game, its artists, and gameplay? 2601:681:5D01:D970:156A:D07A:3EEA:6A68 (talk) 04:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can find no information on IMagi Kingdom of Thor in Wikipedia. Shantavira|^{feed me} 08:03, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Snow King 2000 can glide. Find the right angle to fly longer. What is it?[edit]

The vehicle ride snow on the game Fail Hard its name snow King 2000.

182.232.32.84 (talk) 07:24, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That will depend on wind speed, thermals, and other sources of lift. Please see gliding. Shantavira|^{feed me} 14:44, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hando Ape isn't real or not[edit]

The Hando Ape it's a motorcycle from Fail Hard. The copy version of Honda Ape. 2001:44C8:4225:785C:85A3:DE11:52D5:1869 (talk) 15:22, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the game, it does not come with enough notoriety for being discussed otherwise than as a product, and the details can be found on the web. For the copy version any critical argument would fall under a probable "reciprocal interest" clause because any minibike would attract attention and the concept is not very much copyrightable. I suffered one stolen at the train station already it was a long time ago! --Askedonty (talk) 22:02, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 10[edit]

Sports questions[edit]

1. Why was India-Pakistan today in the middle of the New York schedule instead of 7th or 8th of the 8 New York games? Wouldn't ICC want that as the Group A finale?

2. Has Bundesliga, EPL, La Liga, Ligue 1 or Serie A ever played a regular season game or playoff game outside Europe?

3. When did/will the Ireland and Afghanistan cricket schedule stop being affected by the planners not knowing they'd get Test status when they planned? I think I saw a rough tours schedule years in advance once, does that mean they sit down every 4 or so years and schedule where every Test nation will be years in advance? (at least rough outlines if not exactly) Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 02:46, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1 because that's how the draw went.

2 no, but la liga may next year

3 we don't know Nanonic (talk) 16:37, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

1 Even ICC has said it's not random. Also 4. why is there always a P1 or Pl or PI next to the name of the country batting and never next to the country bowling? What does that stand for? Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 22:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Powerplay. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.136.217 (talk) 00:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dumb me I didn't even notice it's only part of each innings. Specifically the extra fielding restrictions part. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:40, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2. La Liga currently has a team based in the Canary Islands, off the coast of Africa. Hack (talk) 10:54, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 14[edit]

Multi-modal entertainment[edit]

In the late 1980s, there was talk of having computer-generated screenplays, but I don't believe it was ever used. In the 1990s, people at MIT were actively working on this and had some success with good results. In the 2000s, there were rumors that some aspects of this were being used in scripting process, but it was being kept on the down low, but again, was mostly a rumor. Which brings me to today. I was watching Star Trek: Prodigy last night, when it occurred to me, it would be great if I could toggle a setting for maturity mode, and turn off the default "kid-friendly" writing and voices, and turn on a "mature audiences" mode, allowing me to watch the same show, but as Star Trek for adults. And if you think about this, it makes perfect sense, since none of the characters depicted on the show are limited by age or age-related situations. Is this kind of thing doable, where one show is made, but can be viewed in different ways like a video game? Has it already been done in film and television? I'm not referring to interactive film (which is pretty bad and still needs work), but rather the ability to change various elements of the specific work. This is also something I would like to see when it comes to recorded live shows like concerts and performances by comedians and musicians. I would like to be able to change the viewing angles, such that I can toggle through different vantage points (such as watching a comedian or musician perform from the stage, orchestra, audience, loge, box seat, etc.) Is anyone working on this? Viriditas (talk) 19:42, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The question would be whether the extra production work would be cost-effective. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:11, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hence generative AI. Would it be that much extra work if it was AI-assisted and generated? Prompt: create an alternative, parallel narrative, that increases the maturity level of the character dialogue by ten years. Viriditas (talk) 02:02, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you talking about customizing it for each viewer? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:09, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, but that’s a great idea. Viriditas (talk) 04:31, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If you wait a bit, you will be able to use generative AI not only for generating the screenplay, but the whole video, with the content fine-tuned to your personal predilections. --Lambiam 05:15, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I saw that demo on Reddit. Pretty cool. Viriditas (talk) 06:18, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relatedly, see the scenes in Fahrenheit 451 (1966 film) where Linda Montag watches interactive soap operas.

(In the novel, she was called ~~Linda~~ Mildred, in the 2018 remake the character apparently does not appear [I haven't seen it], so the interactive media may not either.) {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.136.217 (talk) 09:32, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. I feel bad for Michael Shannon. Is he always cast as a villain? Poor guy. Can someone give him a break? Viriditas (talk) 21:17, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He could choose not to accept such roles. -- Jack of Oz ^{[pleasantries]} 22:07, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It's funny you just wrote that, because I just spent some time thinking about it. If I was Michael Shannon, and I was in demand as an actor, and I could make a living playing villains, then I suppose I would do so. But there would always be a part of me that would think, could I play a hero instead? I think what bothers me the most, is that for some reason, people think he looks like a villain, as if there is a kind of look. I wonder what that's all about. That's what I'm getting at. Do villains look a certain way? Or rather, do people think villains look a certain way? Viriditas (talk) 23:01, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Character actors may not make the kind of money stars do, but they often find steady employment. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 01:27, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shannon will portray a distinguished person, Chief United States Prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials and later US Supreme Court justice Robert H. Jackson, in the upcoming file Nuremberg. --Lambiam 07:58, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

He kind of looks like him! Viriditas (talk) 20:20, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

June 16[edit]

First performance of Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen in Russia[edit]

Re-named section heading for better archiving purposes MinorProphet (talk) 09:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC) [reply]

Calling all Perfect Wagnerites. Full confession: I'm currently singing in the chorus of a professional production of Die Götterdämmerung. Anyway, I was listening to Glazunov's orchestral fantasy/symphonic poem The Sea (Russian: Mope), Op. 28, which he wrote in 1889 aged around 24. I was struck by some fairly obvious musical references (WP:OR?) to Wagner's Der Ring des Nibelungen. My question is: when was The Ring first performed in Russia? I haven't come across any obvious answer. I can read Russian. Details of theatre, soloists, conductor etc. would be welcome. Russian Wikipedia seems not to be forthcoming. The first complete performance of The Ring cycle took place in August 1876 in the Bayreuth Festspielhaus. Glazunov may have already seen the orchestral scores before any performances had taken place in Russia: the full score of Die Walküre had been published in 1874, and those of Siegfried and Götterdämmerung in 1876.[2]. Any further info on Wagner's influence on Glazunov would be welcome. MinorProphet (talk) 00:50, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I note in passing from his article that "Belyayev took Glazunov on a trip to Western Europe in 1884. Glazunov met Liszt in Weimar . . . .", so he may have seen Ring performances in Germany and would certainly have been able to obtain a copy of the score.

This reference says that Das Rheingold was first performed (as part of The Ring) in Russia, in St. Petersberg, on 11 March 1889. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 188.220.136.217 (talk) 05:34, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"When only 19, he was taken on a trip to Western Europe and Africa. On the way back to St. Petersburg, Glazunov met Liszt in Weimar and heard a performance of Parsifal at Bayreuth."^[3] But, "Continuing their pilgrimage the two Russian friends visited Spain, Africa and finally Bayreuth, where they heard "Parsifal". Wagner's influence upon Glazounov does not date, however, from this time, but from Neumann's performances of the "Ring" at Petrograd in 1889."^[4] --Lambiam 17:33, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Straight from the mouth of the horse:

Über Genf gelangten wir nach Bayreuth, wo ich zum erstenmal den Parsifal hörte. Noch in Rußland hatte ich in frühem Alter Tannhäuser und Lohengrin gehört, von denen ich begeistert war. Die Musik des Parsifal kam mir dagegen seltsam vor, der zweite Aufzug geradezu unangenehm. Ich kannte nur die Einleitung zum Parsifal, welche mich in Bayreuth zu Anfang überraschte durch den Reiz einer überirdischen Klangfülle. Während des ganzen folgenden ersten Aktes langweilte ich mich, sehnte mich fort wie aus einem Gefängnis und war glücklich, als ich während der Pause an die frische Luft entrinnen konnte, ja ich freute mich sogar, als ich einen Leierkasten hörte.
Der zweite Akt, mit Ausnahme einiger Episoden (dem Chor der schönen Jungfrauen Klingsors), marterte mich mit seinen scharfen Dissonanzen und rief in der Nacht sogar Albdrücke hervor. Im dritten Akt, ungeachtet meiner Müdigkeit, hatte ich große Freude an der Musik. Im allgemeinen behielt ich – wegen des Unvorbereitetseins auf den letzten Umbruch Wagners – einen schweren und unangenehmen Eindruck. Ich glaubte damals noch nicht an das Genie Wagners. Das geschah erst später – 1889 –, als ich mich auf Wagner vorbereitete, indem ich zusammen mit Rimskij-Korsakow die Proben zum Ring des Nibelungen besuchte. Zur gleichen Zeit wie bei mir vollzog sich auch bei ihm ein Umschwung in seiner Einstellung zugunsten Wagners.^[5]

Translation:

We went via Geneva to Bayreuth, where I heard Parsifal for the first time. Back in Russia, I had heard Tannhäuser and Lohengrin at an early age, and was enthusiastic about them. The music of Parsifal, on the other hand, seemed strange to me, and the second act was downright unpleasant. I only knew the overture of Parsifal, which surprised me at first in Bayreuth through the charm of its unearthly richness of sound. During the whole of the first act that followed, I was bored, longing to be away like from a prison, and was happy when I could escape into the fresh air during the interval; I was even delighted when I heard a hurdy-gurdy.
The second act, with the exception of a few episodes (the chorus of Klingsor's beautiful maidens), tortured me with its sharp dissonances and even evoked nightmares in the night. In the third act, despite my tiredness, I enjoyed the music very much. In general, unprepared as I was for Wagner's latest upheaval, I was left with a heavy and unpleasant impression. At the time I did not yet believe in Wagner's genius. That only happened later – in 1889 – when I prepared myself for Wagner by attending the rehearsals of the "Ring of the Nibelung" together with Rimsky-Korsakov. At the same time as me, he too underwent a turnabout of his attitude in favour of Wagner.

--Lambiam 18:57, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's fantastic, thanks very much to all as usual for your helpful contributions. The performances at the Mariinsky Theatre in St. Petersburg were ~~conducted~~ organised by the singer/impresario Angelo Neumann (who knew the composer) with his travelling Wagner company. Neumann's company returned to Russia in 1891, this time staging The Ring in Moscow.[6] According to our Neumann article he conducted the first performances outside Bayreuth in Leipzig in 1878, where he also worked with Arthur Nikisch and the outstanding Anton Seidl,[7] who took the Ring to America but sadly died from food poisoning aged 47 in 1898 and never made any gramophone records. I concur with Glazunov in his judgement of Parsifal. I wasn't imagining the influences in Glazunov's The Sea: it was actually dedicated to Wagner, and even Rimsky-Korsakov said he had gone too far in adopting Wagner's musical idioms.[8] MinorProphet (talk) 21:20, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, it was not Neumann but Karl Muck who conducted the four presentations of the whole Ring cycle with the Mariinsky Orchestra [9]. Another cycle was given in Moscow at the command of the Tsar. The production was the "very last bow of the travel-worn, battered replica of the 1876 Bayreuth production which had been on the road since 1882." As an aside, Alexander Benois directed the first home-grown Ring in 1900 at the Mariinsky, and the film director Sergei Eisenstein directed Die Walküre at the Bolshoi in 1940.[10]

Ain't the tinternet amazing? Following this lead[11]^{: p. 105 note 707} I found this review: "Vermischte Mittheilungen und Notizen". Musikalisches Wochenblatt (in German). XX (10): 123–4 [pdf 138]. 28 February 1889.

There was a 120-strong orchestra, with players from the Mariinsky Theatre and the Ballet, and some from the Bayreuth orchestra; prices were 10,000 rubles per night. "Das Künstlerpersonal, welches Director Angelo Neumann mit sich führt, besteht aus den Damen: Therese Malten, Therese Vogl, de:Marie Basta, Cornelia van Zanten, Orlanda Biegler, Antonie Schreiber [from Braunschweig], de:Anna Henneberg, de:Margarethe Lehmann, Marie Rochelle [dramatic soprano who had an affair with Adolf Wallnöfer q.v.][12], Katharina Rosen [possibly as Sieglinde][13], Bertha Thomaschek-Hinrichsen [married to Hans Tomaschek q.v.](Volume 10 of Dictionary of German biography Thibaut - Zycha p. 21), Celia Raditz und de:Josefine Christen, ferner aus den HH. Heinrich Vogl [sang Loge in Rheingold premiere, & most other Wagner tenor roles], de:Johannes Elmblad [possibly Fafner], :de:Emil Hettstedt (disambig) [bass-baritone], de:Siegmund Lieban [high baritone], de:Adolf Wallnöfer [tenor, sang in 135 Rings with the "so-called «Wandernder Wagner-Theater»" from 1880, Hans Thomaschek [baritone, sang in Rheingold in 1883 under Anton Seidl][14], de:Felix Ehrl, Oskar Niemann [tenor] und Siegfried Tausseg." The sets were by Carl Lautenschläger, originator of the first revolving stage in Europe.[15][16] Thanks again all for your impetus (impeti?) which helped me find some answers. :>MinorProphet (talk) 09:10, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

June 22[edit]

Demographics of sport fans in Fiji[edit]

Sport in Fiji addresses this question, but very briefly (the third sentence of the introduction) and without citation.

During a recent conversation with an Indian man from Fiji, I learnt that cricket has a non-trivial following in the country. Is the sport dominated by Indians, or does it have a significant following among Polynesians, too? I was strongly tempted to ask him, but being aware of the country's recent political history, I figured it was safest to say nothing. Nyttend (talk) 11:49, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Is cricket connected with politics in Fiji? ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 17:05, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]