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August 27
[edit]Javascript for kids
[edit]I'm pondering and thinking about buying a Javascript or coding for kids book to teach myself coding (Javascript would be particularly useful), after I learn TI Basic 83/84 Plus. However the books I see on Javascript for kids, namely JavaScript for Kids: A Playful Introduction to Programming or JavaScript For Kids For Dummies (For Dummies (Computers)) are both approaching 10 years old. How screwed would I be trying to learn Javascript from 10 year old books? What really beginner books do people recommend for Javascript? Thanks. Therapyisgood (talk) 01:36, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think you'll be fine. Any enhancements that came out in the last ten years are not likely to impact a beginner. The basic core is still the same. 41.23.55.195 (talk) 05:01, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- Finding a new book will be difficult because the popular beginner language changes over time. When I was a child, it was basic. That was eventually overtaken by Pascal and I thought all the kids learning Pascal were weird. It keeps changing. Right now, it is Python. If you look for Python Programming for Kids, you will find hundreds of books published this year alone. My opinion is that the language doesn't matter. The concepts matter. Learn what a variable is. Learn what control structures are. Learn what functions are. When you view programming as pushing values in and out of memory with functions, it doesn't matter what language you use. They all do the same thing. 12.116.29.106 (talk) 12:06, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly are control structures, and, functions...? Are those terms used in web-programming languages? I'm familiar with terms like variables, and while loops/for loops. Classes and objects. I feel like when you said function, Java and C++ have the same idea but as another word. 66.99.15.162 (talk) 18:00, 29 August 2024 (UTC).
- According to programming books we have: Control structures manage the program counter, affecting the flow of the program. If-else, while, for, etc... Anything that controls the program counter to do something other than flow from one line to the next is a control structure. Functions are very similar to a control structure. They are named locations in memory where you store code so you can use that name to execute the code, along with parameters and return values. It is not "web programming." It is "programming." If you are using a langage that doesn't have control structures, you are stuck writing a program that always goes from line 1 to line 2 to line 3, etc... If you don't have functions, you cannot repeat an algorithm multiple times with different parameters. 75.136.148.8 (talk) 10:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- By program, you mean compiler? Because compilers read from top to bottom, left to right. What do we call control structures in non-web programming like Java or C++? And what you said for functions seems to be my understanding of variable. 66.99.15.162 (talk) 20:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC).
- It is talking about programs in general. A program is executed by obeying an instruction somewhere in the program. The default would be to move on to the next statement in the program. What happens next can be changed by a control structure that causes a different command to be obeyed. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:50, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- I feel you should drop the concept of "web programming." That isn't a thing. Writing a program for a web page or a website is not a unique form of programming called "web programming." It is just programming. 75.136.148.8 (talk) 12:18, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- By program, you mean compiler? Because compilers read from top to bottom, left to right. What do we call control structures in non-web programming like Java or C++? And what you said for functions seems to be my understanding of variable. 66.99.15.162 (talk) 20:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC).
- According to programming books we have: Control structures manage the program counter, affecting the flow of the program. If-else, while, for, etc... Anything that controls the program counter to do something other than flow from one line to the next is a control structure. Functions are very similar to a control structure. They are named locations in memory where you store code so you can use that name to execute the code, along with parameters and return values. It is not "web programming." It is "programming." If you are using a langage that doesn't have control structures, you are stuck writing a program that always goes from line 1 to line 2 to line 3, etc... If you don't have functions, you cannot repeat an algorithm multiple times with different parameters. 75.136.148.8 (talk) 10:49, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- What exactly are control structures, and, functions...? Are those terms used in web-programming languages? I'm familiar with terms like variables, and while loops/for loops. Classes and objects. I feel like when you said function, Java and C++ have the same idea but as another word. 66.99.15.162 (talk) 18:00, 29 August 2024 (UTC).
August 28
[edit]Treeified and linked-list hash bucket equivalence
[edit]A maximally-unbalanced binary search tree is the same as a sorted singly-linked list except that it has an extra null pointer per node. In hash table implementations such as OpenJDK's HashMap, where hash buckets are linked list by default but hash flooding# attacks are resisted by "treeifying" overcrowded buckets whose keys are at least partially ordered, could this equivalence be exploited to decrease the number of branch instructions further than has so far been achieved? NeonMerlin 23:35, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
August 31
[edit]Why Did Windows 11 Computer Restart Itself?
[edit]I was working at my Dell desktop computer, running Windows 11, and stepped away for a little less than an hour. When I came back, I saw that Outlook was opening all of the windows that had been open when I took my dinner break. I then observed that Word and Access had been restarted, and Word had restored two documents from Autorecovery. This wasn't in the time window that I have specified for automatic restarts. Is there a log that records why the computer was restarted? Why did the computer restart itself? Robert McClenon (talk) 02:07, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- There's a chance your computer had a BSOD while you were away. You can verify it by checking for any
BugCheck
events in the event viewer. Ian P. Tetriss (talk) 15:29, 31 August 2024 (UTC)- Thank you, User:Ian P. Tetriss - There was a RestartManager event logged just about at the time that I went back to my computer, that said that Windows Explorer could not be shut down. I haven't gotten any more information at this time, but this confirms that there was some sort of event. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:12, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- A cat could have pressed the power button even. Luhanopi (talk) 20:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- In my cynicism, I suspect it was an update, and the designated time window was treated only as a suggestion. Card Zero (talk) 08:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- The cat presses the keys on the keyboard. She doesn't press the power button. The computer is a desktop model, and the power button is facing forward about eighteen inches off the floor. That isn't where the cat would have anything to do with it. I would not be surprised if it was an update that didn't respect the time window. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've had Windows updates ignore the time window before. I can't offer any technical insight into why, just confirm that it does happen. DuncanHill (talk) 17:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- You can use external software to prevent automatical updates. But check them biweekly then.
- --Luhanopi (talk) 17:48, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
This answer is based on Windows 10. I don't think Microsoft has changed any of this for Windows 11 but I'm not sure.
If it was Windows update, this should show be clear in Event Viewer. E.g. Event 1074 for User32 would be something like:
As mention above, a restart due to system error should also be clear from the Event Viewer, beyond the bugcheck you'd also get a critical event from Event 41, Kernel-PowerThe process C:\Windows\system32\svchost.exe (COMPUTERNAME) has initiated the restart of computer COMPUTERNAME on behalf of user NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM for the following reason: Operating System: Service pack (Planned)
Reason Code: 0x80020010
Shut-down Type: restart
Comment:The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.
although as the event says this could also be due to a sudden power loss, so you'd want to look at other stuff like the bugcheck to try and work out what went wrong. Although you may not always be able to work out exactly what went wrong. E.g. unless you have some sort of hardware monitoring, I don't think you could tell the difference from pulling out the power cable of a system without a built in battery, and a system that died due to thermal protection, and even pushing the reset switch. For that matter, rarely you might get an error which does BSOD which I think there might not be signs of. Still, you at least have the idea it was a sudden unclean shutdown.Probably the most uninformative is the typical
This could be a simple you restarted via the GUI. It could be something else. You can look for other events which might reveal stuff, but you might not always find stuff. Note that with the majority of desktop computers, pushing the power button on the keyboard will either turn the computer off or put it to sleep. It will not restart the computer. If you push it once and the computer shutdowns then push it again later it may start back up, but this should show up as a shutdown rather than a restart in Event Viewer. Likewise if somehow you push the reset switch, as I noted above this should show up as an unclean shutdown.The process C:\Windows\System32\RuntimeBroker.exe (COMPUTERNAME) has initiated the restart of computer COMPUTERNAME on behalf of user COMPUTERNAME\USER for the following reason: Other (Unplanned)
Reason Code: 0x0
Shut-down Type: restart
Comment:I don't think it's very common for computers to have soft restart switches since it's not considered necessary. I think some variants of *nix, may show up a shutdown menu where you can chose what you want to do when you push the poweroff button or for that matter the ACPI soft-off switch. And I'm sure you could get something which would do that in Windows as well, or maybe there's even a way to change some setting somewhere to do that. But I assume you'd still need to click on restart.
Nil Einne (talk) 09:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- In the future, you could consider disabling Reboot after BSOD Luhanopi (talk) 09:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
You could but I don't see the reason for that. AFAIK, all the details that screen provides will be in the Event 1001 BugCheck event. Also I should mention that there are variants of restarts e.g. depending on what's being installed you might get
instead of the service pack one. There's alsoThe process C:\Windows\servicing\TrustedInstaller.exe (COMPUTERNAME) has initiated the restart of computer COMPUTERNAME on behalf of user NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM for the following reason: Operating System: Upgrade (Planned)
Reason Code: 0x80020003
Shut-down Type: restart
Comment:
I might actually be confused earlier and the TrustedInstaller ones are generally for restarts required during updates and the MusNotificationUx ones are for restarts to initiate installation, not sure. You could look more if it matters, but my main point is if it's a regular restart by the system for an update, it should be clear from the Event 1074 that this happened. If it instead shows up as an unplanned restart, this suggests something else whether a GUI initiated restart, a command line one, or something else. If you installed some weird software to manage updates, perhaps this will also show up as a simple unplanned restart.The process C:\Windows\system32\MusNotificationUx.exe (COMPUTERNAME) has initiated the restart of computer COMPUTERNAME on behalf of user COMPUTERNAME\USERNAME for the following reason: Operating System: Service pack (Planned)
Reason Code: 0x80020010
Shut-down Type: restart
Comment:Nil Einne (talk) 10:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- BTW, to be clear, if you restart via the GUI even if you tell it to update, I think this will generally show up as a unplanned restart. Although you can look at the Windows update events and confirm that an update was awaiting restart and installed after you restarted. However this wasn't a force restart per se, even if you did it because you knew you'd eventually be forced. (Sort of, AFAIK, the 7 day rolling delay is technically infinite.) Nil Einne (talk) 10:16, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Soul it happen again, you ruled out BSOD Luhanopi (talk) 11:52, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- In the future, you could consider disabling Reboot after BSOD Luhanopi (talk) 09:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've had Windows updates ignore the time window before. I can't offer any technical insight into why, just confirm that it does happen. DuncanHill (talk) 17:38, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- The cat presses the keys on the keyboard. She doesn't press the power button. The computer is a desktop model, and the power button is facing forward about eighteen inches off the floor. That isn't where the cat would have anything to do with it. I would not be surprised if it was an update that didn't respect the time window. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:34, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- In my cynicism, I suspect it was an update, and the designated time window was treated only as a suggestion. Card Zero (talk) 08:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- A cat could have pressed the power button even. Luhanopi (talk) 20:00, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you, User:Ian P. Tetriss - There was a RestartManager event logged just about at the time that I went back to my computer, that said that Windows Explorer could not be shut down. I haven't gotten any more information at this time, but this confirms that there was some sort of event. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:12, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
Documentation for Event Viewer
[edit]Does the Event Viewer contain its own documentation? Where can I find instructions on how to use the Event Viewer? Robert McClenon (talk) 18:24, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- [1] - Internet doc. Luhanopi (talk) 18:32, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- At first sight. Haven't been throrugh Luhanopi (talk) 18:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not that good. Will leave as it may be useful still. Luhanopi (talk) 18:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- At first sight. Haven't been throrugh Luhanopi (talk) 18:33, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Controlling printed page in HTML
[edit]I am developing a web application whose front end is done in plain HTML and CSS. One of the pages shows a printable page with rows of pretty much identical <div>
elements that look like rectangular text boxes of identical width and height, only the text contents of the elements vary.
Now there is a new requirement that the number of these elements that end up on each individual sheet of paper when physically printing the document should be configurable. Is there any other way to do this than fine-tuning the CSS layout of the page to get the height of these elements and the space surrounding them to match the height of the paper? JIP | Talk 11:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- You can specify different CSS for different media types. For instance you can enforce page breaks in appropriate places. Ruslik_Zero 14:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, the section "Page breaks" seems to be exactly what I need to do. JIP | Talk 19:19, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- In general, i'd say that restrictions like this are pretty unfeasible to guarantee in HTML. It is a markup language (designed for a single page medium), and not a typesetting language. You get very little control about positioning, esp wrt the concept of a 'page'. You can do some best effort with page break suggestions, but that is about it. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 08:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I use page-break-after for elements to force them to break to a new page. The issue is setting the div height. I scanned two books on CSS and I am not sure if vh is relative to the page size when printing or not. If it is, you can easily adjust divs to a percent of print space height using vh. If it is locked to the window's viewport, that won't work. 75.136.148.8 (talk) 12:05, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, the section "Page breaks" seems to be exactly what I need to do. JIP | Talk 19:19, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
September 1
[edit]Why does my laptop (almost) always shut down, when running Windows Experience Index?
[edit]In the rare cases, when it doesn't shut down (as happens if it has just been turned on), the Windows Experience Index, on a scale from 1.0 to 7.9, is:
Processor: 6.9.
RAM: 6.9.
Hardisk: 5.9.
3D Graphics: 5.0.
2D Graphics: 4.2.
HOTmag (talk) 07:15, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- In my experience, shut downs like that have three primary reasons: 1. overheating of a component (might want to check if all the fans are clean, working and freely spinning) or 2. possibly a hardware failure in one of many components, but generally gpu or cpu memory. 3. a bad driver that causes a crash with a level of randomness.
- Determining which one is the cause can be a challenge. But in the BIOS, you can generally observer temperatures and run a memory check, which might be helpful. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:02, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
September 3
[edit]Are there mandatory DVD-Video Standard Features?
[edit]Are there any requirements in DVD-Video Specifications that require adding a user menu and title selections features on consumer DVDs at minimum? Or, that movie scenes and show episodes play chronologically? What I mean to ask is, why don't companies just dump TV show episodes higgledy-piggledy onto a DVD or BluRay in random order without menus? 76.14.14.83 (talk) 01:47, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Presumably because no one would buy the product, so why would they even think to do that? Shantavira|feed me 09:19, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have heard that the copyright notice at the start is compulsory. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 10:53, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- It was mandatory for works published between January 1, 1978 and March 1, 1989 in the United States. Since March 1, 1989, it has been optional with the understanding that failing to include a copyright notice will greatly limit the publisher's ability to protect the copyrighted material. 12.116.29.106 (talk) 12:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- The DVD specifications are kept private and only available if you pay their $5,000 licensing fee. Even if someone paid for them, they wouldn't be able to tell you about them as their contents are under an NDA. So I doubt you're going to be able to get a definitive answer here. Whether or not forgoing the menu is compliant with the specifications or not, it's certainly technically possible. For example, here's a tutorial showing how to do it in DVDStyler. Pinguinn 🐧 09:04, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- It took a lot of hunting and I found a mention of it on some random message board... I remember a DVD that would often be marked as "defective" because it didn't have a menu. You pop it in. The movie starts. It isn't in our collections anymore, but I now know it was Ghost Dad. The official DVD had the movie, just the movie. Nothing else. No menu. No garbage. Because it didn't have a menu, people would check it out, I assume they watched the movie, and they would say it was broken because there was no menu. I remember it because I put it in my DVD player, the movie started, I pressed the menu button and no menu came up. There wasn't even a chapter listing. Just the movie. Surely this isn't the absolute only example of a commercial DVD with no menu, but it proves that at least one exists. 75.136.148.8 (talk) 10:27, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- The first DVD version was distributed by GoodTimes Entertainment, which was an incredibly low-budget operation. I found a picture of its back cover which shows a menu screenshot, but perhaps they weren't able to get it working. 2000 was still an early time for DVDs, after all. The second DVD release was by Universal, and while its back cover doesn't show a menu, it would surprise me if Universal of all people neglected to put one in. Pinguinn 🐧 13:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
September 5
[edit]Link to specific message on message board?
[edit]Hi everyone, Thank you for any help you can give me. I'm a librarian trying to help a student, but I'm a bit stumped on this one. The student is wondering about creating a link to a specific part of a message board so people don't have to dig through potentially thousands of other messages to get there. Since I'm not an expert on this, I was looking for some here. For more context, here is what he was asking:
"I am having trouble making clickable url links that, when my readers click on them, do not take them to a whole message board, causing my readers to hunt through a bewildering array of messages before they can get to one I am referencing. Rather, I would like to make clickable url links that take my readers to a specific post on, say, a message board, or, perhaps, a post on a chain of social media posts. This would make things a whole lot easier on my readers. I have tried to figure out ways to do this myself, but have been unsuccessful so far. What do you think? Is it possible to set up a url link in a reference list that takes one's readers to a specific post on a message board, or a social media chain, or another online dialogic format?"
I hope my question makes sense, and thank you for any help you can give me, it is most appreciated! 2601:19B:681:9910:A8B6:5E5:B728:F523 (talk) 17:31, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Whether you can create a direct link to a post in a message board is entirely dependent on the specific message board software or social media site the post is located on. Often a direct link is as simple as grabbing the address from the address bar of your browser while viewing the post, but that's isn't always possible. Occasional there will be an option on the post itself that will give you the correct address to link to it, but again this is dependent on the specific board being used. 161.11.160.60 (talk) 17:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- If the web page itself does not have link locations build into the web page, you can link to specific text on a web page in most web browsers using a content highlight function like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Computing#:~:text=question%20is%20unclear (I am assuming Wikipedia won't mangle that). 75.136.148.8 (talk) 21:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very, very much! I really appreciate this feedback -- I'll share it with my student! Again, my appreciation. 204.13.46.20 (talk) 01:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- See URI fragment -- Verbarson talkedits 18:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
September 9
[edit]Can't keep track.
[edit]I've been using Google bookmarks on windows 10. I can't find a star or watchlist feature anywhere on the Wiki pages I visit. I signed up to edit once but I didn't proceed. Is there an easy way to keep track on Wikipedia itself? I'm a recurring donor. Deanprine (talk) 21:32, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have no idea about Google bookmarks. There is a watchlist feature. In the Wikipedia skin I use it is on the top right corner. The button has three horizontal lines and a star. You can add a page to the list with a star icon on the header of the page. This is probably better explained at Help:Watchlist. --Error (talk) 23:05, 9 September 2024 (UTC)