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Template for Contribution Counting

Is there any template available, which can count automatically user's contribution? —A H M Saqib Message! 09:42, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, আ হ ম সাকিব. Yes there is a way to count editors' contributions. On any user's page, look for the 'User Contrubutions' link on the left hand side of the page. That gives you a list of all their most recent edits. Now look at the very bottom of that page, and you will see a set of links one of them labelled 'Edit Count'. Click that, and you will arrive at the tool which summarises that editor's Wikipedia contributions.
Yours can be found at: https://xtools.wmflabs.org/ec/en.wikipedia.org/আ_হ_ম_সাকিব Hope this is what you wanted. Seasons greetings, Nick Moyes (talk) 10:48, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nick Moyes: Sorry! This is not I wanted. I know ABC of WMF Lab Tool also. Thank you for your time! —A H M Saqib Message! 14:16, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
@আ হ ম সাকিব:
I actually asked this same question myself. Sorry, but there is no template that automatically counts edits. Maybe you could try to make it yourself!
Thanks, CrazyMinecart88 (talk | contribs) 12:07, 24 December 2018 (UTC)
@CrazyMinecart88: Thanks for your information. —A H M Saqib Message! 14:16, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help from someone who can design Football Kit

Hello, Recently, a new jersey design unveiled for India national football team, its different from general straight stripes or parallel stripes, or boxes. I have gone through Template:Football kit/pattern list#Stripes 2, but didn't find such stripes on arm. Here is the new jersey design, https://www.foxsportsasia.com/football/asian-football/afc-asian-cup/1002013/afc-asian-cup-2019-india-national-team-kit-and-price-revealed/ It has "orange" colour tiger stripes on arm, pattern of which i didn't get anywhere. Can anyone please design the "home" and "away" color for the article, to put in the infobox. It will be a great help. Than you Dey subrata (talk) 16:55, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Dey subrata and welcome to the Teahouse. I've asked at the football WikiProject page as they are more likely to have someone who knows how to answer this specific question. Joseph2302 (talk) 17:06, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Problem with the "Boxing Day" article

Some crazy stuff is going on at the Boxing Day article and I really think this needs administrator intervention. I'm new to this, so sorry if this is the wrong place to ask.InfoManiac297 (talk) 16:59, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

This is being addressed on WP:ANI Thanks for pointing it out! Schazjmd (talk) 17:06, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
WP:AN, rather than WP:ANI. The vandalism has been reverted, the article protected, and the vandal blocked. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:10, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Delete "Wrifraff101"

Can someone please report Wrifraff101

their edit of the page for "boxing day" is ridiculously inappropriate. I would also suggest any other accounts they have be deleted aswell. I am not sure how any of this works, as i do not have a wiki account — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:3021:83D:4000:C111:37F0:3DB1:9E8 (talk) 17:14, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

See the section above. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:16, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

How to make my page visible on search?

I want to make this page popular among visitors. What should I do to make my page available on search?— Preceding unsigned comment added by S3hira (talk • contribs)

@S3hira: What page would that be? Ian.thomson (talk) 16:49, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
S3hira, Wikipedia is not the slightest bit interested in whether pages are popular or not. If you want to make a page popular, please use social media, not Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 17:17, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Are snapshots/screengrabs of Google search results allowed in articles?

Hi. Just now I created the page Pellet gun usage in Jammu and Kashmir. I want to add a screengrab of a blurb of an article from TIME magazine related to this topic that shows up in Google search results, currently right at the top. The point of the screengrab will be to show how the media reports on such a topic. This screengrab will be part of a larger prospective section on the page titled "Media reportage" with examples on how different terms are used when it comes to who actually uses pellet guns in Jammu and Kashmir. Are such screengrabs allowed on Wikipedia? Thanks. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 11:57, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

DiplomatTesterMan Screengrabs can be manipulated. You're better off simply including the URL in a citation. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 15:49, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
@Timtempleton: Thanks for the reply. The problem with this specific instance is the the blurb for the TIME article says something else, something misleading, which isn't mentioned in the main article itself. Why this becomes a more important example it that it is TIME magazine, and the blurb is first thing appearing when I type "Kashmir pellet guns". This is the article "Faces in the Darkness: The Victims of ’Non-Lethal’ Weapons in Kashmir"... the blurb on Google says - "India's army injured thousands with pellet guns." This is what I want to use. Can Google search results be archived? DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 15:55, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
I think i will just leave this out. thanks DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:07, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
@DiplomatTesterMan: welcome to the Teahouse. What you are suggesting is a form of original research, which is not allowed. You'll need independent reliable sources discussing and analysing the media coverage - not instances of media coverage which you yourself analyse. In addition, a Google search is never a good source since what comes out on top is different for people in different parts of the world, and also depends on other searches you have made. So I'm afraid the answer is no, a Google search (whether it is a screengrab or a direct url to the search) is not a useful source. --bonadea contributions talk 15:51, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
@Bonadea: I don't think what I am is suggesting original research persay. But thanks for the reply. I think I will just leave this out. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 15:57, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello User:DiplomatTesterMan; I must comment that in common usage in different parts of the world, a "pellet gun" refers to an air-powered rifle or pistol. The article you have written seems to be about a type of Shotgun with very small type pelletized ammunition... similar to "birdshot" from your description. Perhaps your addition should properly be a sub-section of the more comprehensive "Shotgun" article? Cheers, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 15:54, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
@Hamster Sandwich: My article is not about pellet guns or pellets in general (though I have mentioned briefly what it is on the page, according to sources, specifically relating to this issue being discussed). The article is about their "usage" in the specific region of Jammu and Kashmir. It is a big issue in the region, a national debate often, and has been internationalized due to the area being so called disputed between India and Pakistan. The coverage of this article is beyond the scope of being included within the shotgun article. There are more than enough reliable and notable sources to justify a standalone article in my opinion. I can add a small section if you want into the original shotgun article as you suggested. Maybe even into crowd control articles. I am also not placing this within original Kashmir conflict articles since they are already so large. I will again add a small section in the main articles once this is stabilized. Thanks for the comments and suggestions. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:06, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
I created the article only just today. There is a lot of expansion left. Considering the nature of the topic, I am sure there will be a couple of interested editors other than me. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:09, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
To summarize my comment from above, the term "Pellet gun" itself might be considered to be a colloquialism in context of the broader usage of the term in general, and in particular where Wikipedia articles that cover the subjects Airguns, Pellet and similar. Perhaps something like "Crowd control in Jammu and Kashmir"? Or "Riot suppression in ..." although that seems a bit POV. Like I always say, "One persons righteous protest is another persons riot to control." Regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 16:16, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Addendum: Very light shotgun pellets are more widely known as :"Peppershot" indicating the very small size of the projectiles.
@Hamster Sandwich: Hey. This is a good name suggestion! "Crowd control in Jammu and Kashmir"?" Currently I had pinged users related to whether the article title is suitable or not. Thanks! I will suggest it on the talk page of the article. @Talk:Pellet gun usage in Jammu and Kashmir Thanks! DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:23, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Very happy to be of any assistance! Please try to remember to update the article if crowd control techniques change over a period of time there (as it may happen). By renaming the article to "Crowd control in..." it would give editors a chance to add material from the historical past that deals with the topic as well. Cheers, and happy editing! Hamster Sandwich (talk) 16:41, 25 December 2018 (UTC)
Yes. The scope of the article drastically increases and allows it to be more comprehensive and thorough. I see that someone already created the page "Crowd control in Jammu and Kashmir" just now which is currently a redirect. Thanks MarkZusab. DiplomatTesterMan (talk) 16:59, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

This one is "in the books", for all intents and purposes. My thanks to the editors who contributed here. Regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 20:12, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Thyroid Hormones - wiki page

Not so much a question. I don't know how to edit the 'thyroid hormones' wiki page where I have noticed has an error. Reference [2] is a paper by A Pilo et al fro m 1990. This clinical paper is biased and should not be used on this page. The main problem of the study was that participants was given 5 drops of Lugol's oil twice daily for the entire duration of the study. So this has given a massive bias to the whole paper.

In order to calculate conversion and production rates they used T4 and T3 molecules that were marked by radioactive iodine without understanding that this meant that the very high stable iodine dose given to the participants during the experiment to protect their thyroids from damage down-regulated deiodinase activity. This altered the natural secretion rate and under estimated the amount of T3 produced by the thyroid. This down regulation of deiodinase activity was not noted in the paper. Also the small number of participants, 14, cannot be be valid as representative of the population as a whole, nor can the fact that they were all healthy and none had hypothyroidism, so therefore the thyroid secretion rate cannot be representative of hypothyroid patients.

As individual human thyroid in vivo secretion rate is so difficult to determine, the clinical papers involving rat thyroid secretion is usually substituted and JJ DiStefano writing in the mid-1980's suggested that it was 4:1, not 14:1 - T4:T3.

Since discovering this anomalous A Pilo et al paper I have been trying to correct it everywhere I can. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gatzpo (talk • contribs) 19:35, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

The article Thyroid hormones currently states T4:T3 release ratio as 14:1 and cites Pilo. Will need a review citation based on human data if you want to update this. Also by "...I have been trying to correct it everywhere I can." looks to be places other than Wikipedia, as the Wikipedia article has not been edited. OR am I missing something? David notMD (talk) 20:13, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


Withdrawing a GA nomination

Hi, I’m just curious but how do you withdraw a GA nomination? For instance, I believe the GA nomination for Boyle County High School should be withdrawn as I don’t think it meets the criteria for a GA article. —KYschools1 (talk) 07:48, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello, KYschools1, welcome to the Teahouse. It appears that you initially nominated this page yourself (diff). If you re-read the nominating instructions at WP:GAI, you'll see that if the review process hasn't already started (which clearly this one hasn't), then, as nominator, you simply delete the GA Review template on the article's talk page. I'd suggest you put an article up for WP:PEERREVIEW first, in future. This requires far less volunteer commitment and will simply give you a number of easy pointers to address if you think you really want to commit to taking that article forward to GA, or indeed to simply improve it. Had had someone other than yourself nominated it for GA review, my advice would have been to have contacted the nominator and discussed your concerns on their Talk Page and agree amongst yourselves whether it's appropriate to continue, or to remove the GA nomination. Does this help? Nick Moyes (talk) 10:27, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
I nominated it and it wasn’t reviewed yet. I just removed the template from the article. I will put it for peer review soon as I see some concerns in the article. —KYschools1 (talk) 20:16, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Translation

I was translating pages from English to another language, using the translate function, however I notice that the infoboxes don't usually function ( an exception being taxonomy.)

How can one fix this?

Ériugena (talk) 21:47, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

You'll find advice at WP:Translate us#Here's how you can help, bullet point 8. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:51, 26 December 2018 (UTC)


This states that " If you want to add templates, do that, too. (Note that templates for such items as Infoboxes have different wording in other language Wikipedias, and can't simply be copied from one Wikipedia to another." This is not exactly the case, as I have stated before, the infobox for articles to do with 'taxonomy' ( for instance, a species of plant) all show up in the translated article on the right hand side (well this is the case for translating from English into Irish Gaelic!). This poses the question, hopw does one translate an infobox from English into Irish Gaelic or another language, when no subject is in the list of preformed infoboxes in the target language? Ériugena (talk) 22:01, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Suggestion to article

Hello, could someone help and provide me some suggestions to improve the article recently issued, to ensure that is correctly referenced, copyright compliant and well comprehensible? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tullio_Bassi

regards A.B. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baxialby (talk • contribs) 14:28, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Insert the refs in the text after the sentence(s) being supported by the citation and the ref itself appears in the References list. And sign your commends by typing four of ~ at the end. David notMD (talk) 19:50, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hello, Baxialby, welcome to the Teahouse, and seasons greetings. Thank you for inviting feedback. I'm afraid there is quite a lot wrong with it at the moment. Most seriously, you have cooy/pasted a lot of content straight from Bassi's website. This is completely against our policies, and you MUST remove them all immediately, please see here. You should only add content from sources that are independent of the subject, and it must be written in your own words. The other problems are highlighted in templates that other editors have already added to the page. In summary, these other issues you might wish to address include the following:
  • The lede paragraphs do not readily communicate how well he meets our notable people criteria.
  • There is too much non-encyclopaedic trivia which should go.
  • It is unclear which references support which statements. See referencing for beginners for guidance. It is preferable to put them inline, right after the statements they support.
  • Most importantly, you must show how he mets our notability criteria. I am unable to follow the references to make that assessment.
I hope this feedback is of some use. I'm sure other editors could make further comments for you. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:28, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
@Baxialby: Thank you for addressing the copyright violation issue so quickly. I've also had a go at tidying up the article, as well, and adding a few [citation needed] templates where statements are unsupported. I still feel the article (which I note was recently rejected at WP:AFC) fails to demonstrate our notability guidelines for people. I visited Italian Wikipedia where I see there is no page for him (why is that?), nor for any of the so-called 'notable' orchestral musicians for whom you have credited him with making their instruments - nor are they to be found here on en.wiki. What you really need to supply us with are some links to books or newspapers which show that Bossi has been written about, in depth by one or more independent sources. Blogs and passing mentions in lists of makers simply aren't sufficient. Unfortunately, just like so many other brilliant and worthy men and women of science, medicine, academia and culture, if he hasn't been written about in some detail by reliable sources, he simply isn't going to merit an article on him here (unlike so many here-today-gone tomorrow minor TV non-entities who do manage to attract that coverage). Do make sure that you only include information from published sources, leaving out any content that you happen to personally know about him, but cannot support. Sorry I can't help much more, but I fear the article may not, as it stands, do will in a deletion discussion, and I would suggest that Italian Wikipedia might have been a far better place to have started with this article. Best wishes, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:43, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

oops I misnamed an article

I'm working too late without coffee, while updating another laptop, and wanted to post an article before I left for dinner. However, in my rush, I misnamed the article "Edward P. Hunter" instead of "Edmund P. Hunter." Can someone please correct my error? Thanks, Jweaver28 (talk) 00:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

 Done Nick Moyes (talk) 00:45, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Username change?

Hello, thank you for taking questions. Is it possible for me to change my username? If so, how can I go about this. If not, how can I legitimately set up a different account without falling foul of rules. SadKid01 (talk) 07:06, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

  1. yes you can
  2. probably not applicable in this instance, and not recommended

Please see here WP:UNC and here Wikipedia:Changing_username. Cheers Edaham (talk) 07:10, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Procedure followed and question accordingly resolved. Thanks WaynfleteRd (talk) 02:33, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Error

Why does my Edit keep getting say Error when i am about to save the changes on an Article? This time, i have put References/Sources as evidences for my Contribution at an Article... thanks for answering, i'm just curious why and how to solve this problem... i think the CAPTCHA is broken.... i just need help. Thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FauxWhistle9262 (talk • contribs) 06:03, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @FauxWhistle9262: Welcome to the Teahouse. Do you have any more details on the type of error you're getting? When it happens, what it looks like, what it says, what article(s) you were editing, any of that would be useful. Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 06:18, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Can anyone help me with my peer review?

the link is here any suggestions? thanks --I love rpgs [please ping me! ] 15:59, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps this is not the place to make this request... ―Abelmoschus Esculentus talk / contribs 06:56, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Janet Robin

Hi- my team was trying to update my wikipedia page. Everything listed can be sourced. I would like to know how we can remove the warning header saying it's written like a resume... it's more of a biography. And the close connection is because the updates are from people who have worked with me. Please help as I'd like the updates to go through as well as I'd like a new photo implemented. Appreciate any help you can lend. Thank you, Janet Robin Team — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:CD5E:D739:546C:68CA:EBE2:4818 (talk) 07:38, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi IP 2602:304:CD5E:D739:546C:68CA:EBE2:481. If you are indeed Janet Robin, then neither you nor any members of your team should be editing the article directly. Please refer to Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Biographies of living people#Relationship between the subject, the article, and Wikipedia for more information. In addition, if any members of your "team" are being paid or compensated in any way to edit the article, then they need to comply with Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:54, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Did Google Books change something?

I can no longer look at previews of pages in Google Books. I get search results, but when I click on one of them, I'm taken to a page for that book, with no preview, and the entire page is "greyed out", so that while I can see the info, I can't select any of it, or click on any links. I've tried this on multiple browsers. Has anyone else experienced this? Thanks. Ewen Douglas (talk) 20:49, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

@Ewen Douglas: Could you link to one of the books that's happened to you with? I've not had that happen on the books I've checked today. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:51, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Sure, try this link. I have a feeling it's just my computer but it's odd that it's happening in multiple browsers. Thanks @Ian.thomson:. Ewen Douglas (talk) 22:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Okay, I take it back. Chrome and Firefox are giving me the greyed-out book page. Safari is somehow still handling my searches the normal way. I'm still trying to sort this out but any advice is appreciated. Ewen Douglas (talk) 22:10, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
@Ewen Douglas: Huh, that link does do what you showed me, but when I search the book myself and open it it still takes me here instead. I'm on Firefox. For some reason, you're at https://www.google.com/books, while I started off at https://books.google.com/ . Are you starting off at www.google or at books.google? (Well, now that I try going at it through www.google myself, that doesn't seem to be it, either, unless you're going at it through some way I can't think of). Ian.thomson (talk) 22:21, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
I noticed the www.google and books.google difference as well, just now. I start at the same place in all 3 browsers - google.com, then click the Books link. Not sure why 2 of the 3 browsers are now handling the search differently and sending me to www.google, which is where the problematic page is, and Safari is still sending me to books.google where the results are fine. It's quite irritating, especially since I use Chrome the most and Firefox as a backup. I'm still trying to figure it out. Ewen Douglas (talk) 22:27, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
I've discovered a sort of workaround - I can right-click on the link featured in the search results (which is still a books.google.com link), then paste that in the address bar of Chrome, but then I still have to remove most of the tail end of the link, and only then am I allowed to see the preview text that I was previously allowed to see instantly. Most confusing. Ewen Douglas (talk) 22:35, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
@Ewen Douglas: Just a thought: have you tried this searching in an 'Incognito' or'Private' window? Sometimes when I'm researching a topic I only get a partial return for a page I had previously seen in full. Going Incognito in Chrome sometimes gives me back the full search results. Nick Moyes (talk) 01:06, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
That worked as well, thanks for the tip, @Nick Moyes:. So it's obviously something connected to my google account that I'm signed into on those 2 browsers. Wish I knew what it was, though. Ewen Douglas (talk) 07:59, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

federal crimes should be listed in a person's biography posted on Wikipedia

There is a biography for Adam Milstein on Wikipedia. Nowhere in the article does it mention that Milstein served a federal prison sentence for tax fraud. I mentioned this once before, and a brief statement was posted to the Milstein Wikipage for a few days, then someone went back onto Milstein's page and deleted the information.

Adam Milstein is a professional propagandist who uses his money and power to influence everything from US state and federal elections to media reporting. His actions are fascist in nature and extremely biased.

Wikipedia should suspend the account that is deliberately whitewashing Milstein's biography and post the historic truth about Milstein's activities which are readily available for reading outside of Wikipedia.

This is a travesty when information is being submitted for permanent record on Wikipedia, with a total ignorance of the truth of this man. Its like writing an article about Hitler, and completely ignoring Hitler's human rights atrocities. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fd52944 (talk • contribs) 04:59, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

@Fd52944: Could you provide a WP:DIFF of where you added the edit? Also, see WP:BLP. Wikipedia is not censored but all information must be reliably sourced. Ian.thomson (talk) 05:08, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Welcome to the Teahouse, Fd52944. The article currently states "In 2009 he was convicted of minor tax fraud." If you want to add more details about this conviction, then you need to furnish a reference to a reliable source that discusses this matter in depth. Put forward your argument at Talk: Adam Milstein. Calling a person's actions "fascist in nature" and "extremely biased" is a policy violation without extremely strong sourcing. Be cautious. Comparing tax evasion to invasions of other countries, aggressive warfare and genocide is hyperbolic. You are unlikely to persuade people by using such rhetorical tactics. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 08:35, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

}}U|Cullen328|Ian.thomson|Fd52944}}My two cents. There is no such thing as MINOR tax fraud. The insertion of the adjective appears to be an attempt to minimize the crime. Like calling a felony a minor felony or even a misdemeanorOldperson (talk)

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how publish draft article's?

hi sir , how i published my draft article's?. i cant find option of publishing the draft. please help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Muhammad Faheem Muhammad Ameen (talk • contribs)

@Muhammad Faheem Muhammad Ameen: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. In looking at your draft, I would see that you seem to have a common misunderstanding as to what Wikipedia is. It is an encyclopedia and not social media for people to tell the world about themselves. As an encyclopedia, Wikipedia is only interested in what independent reliable sources state about article subjects that are notable as defined by Wikipedia. In this case, that would be defined at WP:BIO(please review). Wikipedia has no interest in what an article subject wants to say about itself. Wikipedia also strongly discourages writing autobiographies, please review the autobiography policy at WP:AUTO.
For these reasons, I regret to say that the draft article about yourself is not acceptable, as you are just posting a social media-type page about yourself. You would only merit an article if independent parties have significantly written about you on their own; and in order for you to be successful in writing about yourself, you would need to forget everything you know about yourself and only write based on what those independent parties have stated. Most people cannot do this, as people naturally write favorably about themselves. If you want to write about subjects other than yourself, you may want to use the new user tutorial to learn more about Wikipedia. I'm sorry this message could not be more favorable. 331dot (talk) 09:51, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Articles for Deletion subject subscription

I thought I saw a page where you could subscribe to specific subjects in Articles for Deletion and you would be notified when articles in those subjects came up on AfD. You could also set the number or articles per month you wanted to be notified about. But I can no longer find that page. Please help. Aurornisxui (talk) 19:53, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

It's not quite what you wanted, but you could put this page on your watchlist. User:DumbBOT/ProdSummary TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 20:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
@Timtempleton: Thanks for the suggestions, but not really what I'm looking for. Aurornisxui (talk) 20:58, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Could you be thinking of Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting, Aurornisxui? I have a couple of the deletion lists on my watchlist, to keep a track of what's going on in particular subject areas. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:04, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
@Cordless Larry:, Thanks, that looks interesting and I've bookmarked it, but it wasn't what I was looking for. Aurornisxui (talk) 21:29, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
@Cordless Larry: I just started exploring what you suggested and it's wonderful! Thanks again very much! Aurornisxui (talk) 01:03, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@Aurornisxui:, could this be it? Wikipedia:Article_alerts/Subscribing Schazjmd (talk) 21:56, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
@Schazjmd:, Thank you, I saw that, but this had a list of subjects you could sign up for to be notified when your subject came up on AfD. Aurornisxui (talk) 22:08, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
@Aurornisxui: This might sound rude (and I really don't mean it to be), but it seems to me that if you're still not getting what you're after, you're either asking in the wrong forum, or are not being precise enough in what it is that you do seek. (none of us here are mind-readers to know what it is exactly you do want). So, if you're still stuck for an answer, you might perhaps get a more useful answer if you post your question at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Deletion sorting? Gosh - that sounded even blunter than I felt it might - genuinely not intended. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:54, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nick Moyes: No, no not rude at all, I didn't know where else I could ask, knew here probably wasn't right. I tried to add all the details I remembered in the hopes someone would recognize what I meant, but I only saw it once, briefly. Thanks for directing me to that talk page, I'll try there. Aurornisxui (talk) 00:01, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@Aurornisxui: Oh that's good to know. Perhaps you could pop back and ping us if you do get an answer? I find the Teahouse is a great way to learn new skills...and it works in both directions. Nick Moyes (talk) 00:04, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nick Moyes: Did more searching and found it Wikipedia:Feedback request service. Not AfD after all but I found it from the main AfD page and I wouldn't have known the difference when I first found it. Thanks again to everyone. Aurornisxui (talk) 00:58, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@Aurornisxui: As a former boss once said to me: "Consider yourself reprimanded!" (LOL). Glad you found what you sought in the end. I must go off and play with the AfD alerts as I think I could do with keeping my eye on one or two favourite topic areas myself. (In my opinion, too many editors around here seem to treat the proposal of articles for a deletion discussion as akin to "treading on bugs" because they don't have the time or the common sense to investigate and improve what they don't understand, and a few even seem to treat the destruction of poor quality, but nevertheless noteworthy, articles as some sort of badge of honour.) BTW: I use a lovely little script calledPage Collector that allows me to add pages I might be interested in later on to a 'useful pages' list -a sort of 'watchlist' for interesting guidelines and other and wikipedia pages. You might find it worth installing if this happens a lot. Cheers Nick Moyes (talk) 01:27, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@Nick Moyes: I agree completely. I actually left AfD after about a week because it seemed to me that Assume Good Faith didn't apply. But I think I can be of help fixing articles that need to be fixed. I get frustrated with the agendas, arguments, lack of searching, and lack of fixing the article, but that's something I like to do anyway. I don't know anything about using scripts, but I will check this one, it would be nice to just see articles I might be interested in. ETA, I just looked at this and will definitely have to try it, it would certainly be better than an abundance of bookmarks that aren't always useful. Thanks! Aurornisxui (talk) 02:15, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Ah, I did think that what you were describing sounded like the feedback request service and probably should have mentioned that. Anyway, I'm glad you found out about some other interesting tools in the process, Aurornisxui! Cordless Larry (talk) 09:56, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Owner Permission to Use Photos

The owner of some photos recently gave me his permission to release the photos as Creative Commons. I noted this when I uploaded the photos, used the photos in a new Wikipedia article I created, and forwarded his emailed permission to Permissions. Would you suggest taking any additional steps?

  1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:E.S._Schubert.jpg
  2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bust_of_Dred_Scott_and_Descendants.jpg
  3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sacred_Heart_Close-Up.jpg

— Preceding unsigned comment added by WayneofNottingHill (talk • contribs) 23:00, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

@WayneofNottingHill: Welcome to the Teahouse. No need to worry about Image 1 - it's clearly recorded your OTRS submission. Provided your email eventually clearly demonstrates permission has been correctly given for free use for both commercial and non-commercial applications, you can do no more. Images 2 and 3 show no such permission has been submitted for OTRS, and a warning notice states the images will be deleted in 6 days time if you don't demonstrate the relevant permission. Was it your belief that you had? If so, you could perhaps add a note to the image that an OTRS submission had been made - and then follow it up. Maybe give the same OTRS ticket number if you submitted them at the same time, which I suspect you did? Or, you could go back to the owner of the image on the blog and ask them to edit their blog to show a CC-BY-SA Creative Commons licence is given for that image. The folks at OTRS would then follow that link and confirm if the correct licence was cited.  Hope this helps. (And please remember to sign all talk page posts with four keyboard tildes (like this: ~~~~). Nick Moyes (talk) 00:33, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@WayneofNottingHill: You say that Schubert is the owner of the photos: Is he also the owner of the copyright on the photos? Ordinarily the photographer owns the copyright (unless they specifically transfer the copyright). In particular the portrait was certainly taken by a professional photographer. Also, there are several flavors of Creative Commons licenses, and not all of them are acceptable to Wikipedia. On your file description pages you specify CC-BY-SA-4.0, which is a good license. In order to avoid delays, be sure that the OTRS message identifies Schubert as the copyright owner and CC-BY-SA-4.0 as the specific license. —teb728 t c 08:33, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
@WayneofNottingHill: If Schubert holds the copyrights on these photos (I say "if" because as pointed out by teb728 the copyright holder of a photo is the photographer who takes it, not the person being photographed, unless it's a work for hire or there's a copyright transfer agreement.), then you'd be better off having him email his WP:CONSENT to WP:Contact OTRS because OTRS volunteers don't accept forwarded emails (at least a few OTRS volunteers have told me this is the case). -- Marchjuly (talk) 12:21, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Edit the box office collection of the movie hebbuli

This movie hebulli has collected 95 crore+ ,and the source of its box office in Wikipedia (at present) is of its 1st week collection. Here is a reliable source Soure=ttps://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thenewsminute.com/article/hebbuli-s-huge-success-amala-paul-gets-tag-rs-100-crore-actor-61504%3famp


Therefore this movie should be placed in the highest grossing indian movies (kannada).And its page also needs to be updated.

I would appreciate if someone edits these 2 pages. Add 'h' at starting of the source. I am also sure athe thenewsminute is a very reliable source. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎ Anchitya (talk • contribs) 2018-12-27T11:05:55 (UTC)

Hello again, Anchitya. You have found a source which says it "has grossed over Rs.100 crore",[1] it is true; but the lack of a source for that data, and of a precise number, make it suspect: does the information come from an independent source, or from the distributors, or the actor's publicists? Especially considering that another source[2], which looks more impartial, says ₹45 crores for India, and ₹56 crores worldwide. It's clear that the ₹20 crores in Hebbuli is not right, but I haven't seen any reliable independent sources which talk about 100 crores. Note also that this very question was discussed Talk:Hebbuli in May 2017, without any resolution.
I've gone ahead and updated Hebbuli, and added it to List of highest-grossing Indian films, both with the 56 Cr value.
A couple of administrative things, Anchitya:
  1. Please sign postings on this and other talk/discussion pages, with four tildes (~~~~)
  2. Please make clear in your question which articles you are talking about, preferably wikilinking them. (So above I put [[Hebbuli]], which displays as Hebbuli).
  3. I'm not sure why you mangled the URL above (and in your previous post). You can put URLs in questions, and it's much easier if you do so. But a specific URL is much more helpful than a google URL.

--ColinFine (talk) 12:55, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ "With Hebbuli's huge success, Amala Paul gets tag of Rs 100 crore actor". www.thenewsminute.com. Retrieved 2018-12-27.
  2. ^ "Hebbuli (Kannada) - Box Office Collection, Budget & Reviews". BOTY. Retrieved 2018-12-27.

regarding edit

Good morning Tea House Have a nice day

Once again Masroor Chaudhary is with you. According to reliable sources: Maghfoor Ahmad Ajazi Sister Noorun Nisa was married with Chaudhary Mohammad Kalimullah a Land Lord of Dist. Darbhanga Bihar India. There are few authentic references (Historical Proof) are mentioned as below:-

1. Huma Urdu Digest Delhi 2. Times of India Independence Day Issue 3. Bihar Vibhuti a book 4. Tarikh Ain e Tirhut (History of Tirhut) - Authar Munshi Bihari Lal Fitrat 5. Reyaz e Tirhut Authar Pandit Ayodhaya Nath

These are some references are for your kind review and perusal. Now please accept my edit on Maghfoor Ahmad Ajazi Page.

Thanking you in advance

Best Regards,

Masroor Chaudhary — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masroor Chaudhary (talk • contribs) 11:19, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

If you give us proper bibliographic information, Masroor Chaudhary, then one or more of those might be acceptable as a source. But at present you have not given enough information by which a reader at any time in any country could find the references and verify it. It doesn't have to be easy for them to get hold of it: it might be something that they would have to order a scan of from a major library. But it must be possible in principle. Which month and year of Huma Urdu Digest? Which page? What is the reference? Which month and year of Times of India? Which book, who wrote it, when and where was it published? and so on. We don't need 5 references, we just need one which is published, reliable, and with enough information that a concerned reader can locate it to check. --ColinFine (talk) 13:04, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


Session Hijacking

Is session hijacking is considered compromising an account? 36.84.65.146 (talk) 12:59, 27 December 2018 (UTC)


The account would be a compromised account, can I ask whether your asking because of specific circumstances or just hypothetically? You can find more info on wikipedia policy here. and for general questions Reference Desk may be more suitable next time. RhinosF1 (talk) 13:09, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Need Clearity on Orphan article, Nomination for deletion, Advice

I actually added link to Ganiyu Olatunji Olatunde But still confuse if the article is still an Orphan

Question: How many incoming links needs to be in an article for it not to be an Orphan and what makes an article an orphan?

2. I took my time to go through this article ( Chike Ukaegbu)and feel is not notable enough.

Reason: I took my time to look through Most of the citations and they are not properly source and I am 90% in doubt if he is notable

Questions: How do I nominate it for deletion?

3. In copyediting, is it possible for me to work on about 90% of the contents to make it suitable?

4. Plan writing an Article on political Party and their National chairmen / Party founder, want to inquire if such is notable enough to be on Wikipedia.�

Odiri (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:57, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Odiri. To take your questions in order:
  1. Ganiyu Olatunji Olatunde currently has one link from another article, and so it is not an orphan. More links would be better. I am not convinced that the article establishes Olatunde's notability - is "acting vice-chancellor" really a "highest-level elected or appointed administrative post at a major academic institution or major academic society"? In any case, there should be at least one independent source.
  2. The process is detailed in WP:AFD#Nominating article(s) for deletion
  3. Sorry, I don't know what you are asking. Copy editing is always encouraged. Are you asking if copyediting can make an article acceptable when the subject does not meet the criteria for notability? The answer to that is, No amount of editing can overcome a lack of notability.
  4. Very possibly. We can't possibly answer that in general. PLease read WP:GNG in general; and WP:ORG for parties, and WP:NPOL for their leaders. You can come back and ask about particular cases. --ColinFine (talk) 13:18, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello

Hello, Teahouse, thank you for the invite. I'm new at this so am not sure if I can ask questions here about proper editing and citation rules or if I do that on another talk page. I will post on that page as well. Thank you.Trubea01 (talk) 16:09, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

@Trubea01: Yes, you can ask questions here. Different talk pages have different purposes and may or may not be appropriate, depending on what kind of question you have. I have written a guide that covers this and many other issues many new users face. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:16, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

How do i reply on talk?

Hello everyone in the tea house , i am not at all used to the ways of communication on Wikipedia and i need some help with replying to others on "talk" Thank you! (Sorry if this question was too short) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orengi Harvey (talk • contribs) 15:52, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

@Orengi Harvey: To reply to a section on a talk page, look at the section title, look to the right of it for a button that says "edit" (it may be a pencil if you're on mobile), and click that. Then go completely under what you are replying to, put one more colon (:) than is present in the section above, and reply from there. Put four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your talk page posts to sign it (but not article changes!). You can see more in this guide that I wrote, especially the sections on Links, italicizing, bolding, green-text quoting, and signing and also Indenting and responding. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:16, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Hi, Orengi Harvey and welcome to the Teahouse. There are some ambiguities in your question, so I'm going to make a best guess: if that doesn't help, please come back and ask further.
There are many talk pages: each article has a talk page, for discussions about improving that article; and each user has a talk page, where other editors may communicate with them. I'm guessing that you want to reply to one of the users who have posted on your user talk page User talk:Orengi Harvey? If so: you can reply to them on your user talk page, or on their own user talk page, as you prefer. Replying on your user talk page keeps the discussion in one place, so that is what I would recommend. But if you do so, they will not get a notification that you have replied (they would if you posted on their talk page). What you can do is to ping them: there are various ways of doing this, but what I do is to use the template {{u}}. So if you want to reply to Boleyn, for example, you put {{U|Boleyn}} somewhere in your message, with the double curly brackets; then as long as you sign your post (with four tildes ~~~~) the user will get a notification.
To add to a section on a talk or discussion page, just pick "Edit" at the top of the section. Start on a new line, and precede each paragraph of your reply with one or more colons (':'): each colon will indent the text one more step, so if replying to something already indented you use one more than they did.
I hope this answers your question. --ColinFine (talk) 16:23, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Setting up a wikipedia for the band Peace of Blues

I'm new to setting up a wikipedia page and was doing one for the band Peace of Blues.

Can someone with experience look at the page and help me with my mistakes as I keep getting notifications on correcting problems? thanks! It is currently a draft page!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Peace_of_Blues#cite_note-9 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kephers (talk • contribs) 16:11, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello @Kephers: The biggest thing that is going to keep the page from being approved is your sourcing. Writing an article first and adding sources after just results in trouble, it's far easier to just summarize sources. The quality of your sources are also a problem.
I recommend finding three to seven (five is good but you must have at least three) professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources that provide in-depth coverage specifically and primarily about the band but are still not dependent upon nor affiliated with the band, its members, its label, or associated acts. Without at least three such sources, the article will never be approved so there's no point in even trying without three such sources. Then summarize and paraphrase those sources, putting citations at the end of them.
There's information on this and more in this guide I wrote. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:23, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Question on Edting of Bessie Stringfield's Wikipedia page

Dear Host and editors,

This morning, Dec. 27, 2018, I started editing the Wikipedia page for Bessie B. Stringfield, in order to correct factual errors and add the correct citations (references/sources) for the corrected information. I made a few edits, then when I tried to publish the latest edit, I got an error message saying "edit conflict" and that someone else was editing the page at the same time. I didn't know what steps to take next, as the Help guide was unclear. When I refreshed the Bessie Stringfield page (its "home" page), all of my edits had been taken away, and the incorrect information had been restated. To give an example: In the first sentence, it says that Bessie Stringfield was the first African American woman to ride a motorcycle across the United States. This is not verifiable and it is misleading. It gives the impression that she rode coast-to-coast in one ride. The correct information is that she was the first woman to ride "around" (make meandering long-distance trips by motorcycle) eight times in her lifetime. How do I reinstate the correct information, and also how do I reinstate other correct information and the source citations that I'd inserted elsewhere? Thank you.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Trubea01 (talk • contribs)

You'll have to try making you're edit again as you're edit isn't now recoverable. An edit conflict occurs when 2 or more editors edit at the same time RhinosF1 (talk) 16:26, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

How long does it take for revisions and inserted citations to be publicly published?

Is there a time-lag in between the time a new editor makes factual revisions and adds new citations to a page, and the time when the revisions are publicly posted? I thought the chnaged were published immediately? Or maybe someone else undid my revisions?Trubea01 (talk) 16:23, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

@Trubea01: I'll get to your other questions in a moment but instead of posting a new sections for everything you can edit an existing section by looking to the right of the section title for a button that says "edit." Click that and use that instead of posting new sections. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:26, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
You'll see who undid your revisions, and why, at the history page for the article in question. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:30, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Some edits were reverted by User:Bbb23. He may be able to help so I'll ping him. @Bbb23: RhinosF1 (talk) 16:33, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Original Sources

Good day: I am in process of writing an article about the Service History of Porte-class Gate Vessels, East Coast, Canada and Great Lakes 1971 to 1975. The sourced material is contained in the Fonds of the sea captain who commanded these operations. Commander F.R. Berchem died Mar 2018. As Executor of his estate, I have been directed to place these materials in a suitable museum/archive. Until that task is done, I hold them. These form the source material upon which I base the article, and they are not yet catalogued in a public archive. I am in the process of scanning the documents should your editors wish to see them as part of your publishing protocol. See the beginning of the draft: User_talk:Zimmerman,_G.L./sandbox/Canadian_Gate_Vessel_1971_to_1975

How do you advise I proceed? George Zimmerman — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zimmerman, G.L. (talk • contribs) 16:43, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

@Zimmerman, G.L.: If the sources are not published in any way, they're not sources as far as we're concerned. Ian.thomson (talk) 16:49, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello! There is, at the present time an article Porte-class gate vessel in Wikipedia. Perhaps you have access to some published material concerning the topic which could be added. Newspaper articles from reliable sources could be added, provided the page # and date is included (?) The question mark is for theseemingly mutable nature of what constitutes a "reliable source" here in Wikipedia. User:Ian.thomson is absolutely correct in reminding us that things like personal diaries, even of notable people are not a correct source, unless they have been further published by a reliable source. Regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 17:33, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Sources

Thank you for inviting me I want to ask how can we check a source is credible or not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ReginaMills007 (talk • contribs) 18:32, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

See WP:CITE for help. I'm also about to post some advice on your talk page. RhinosF1 (talk) 19:15, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Uploading a photo to page in creation

Hello, and thank you for the friendly help. How do I upload a photo into the draft I am creating? Thank you! Zuzuroo (talk) 19:15, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Carole Basinger. Since your subject is a living person, the photo must be uploaded to Commons. If you took the photo yourself, you can upload it using Commons:Special:UploadWizard. If it was taken by someone else, have the photographer upload it there. —teb728 t c 19:48, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

Responding to User:teb728 Must the photographer be a Wikipedia User? Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Carole Basinger (talk • contribs) 19:04, 22 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Carole Basinger. I just noticed your follow-up question. No, see Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials and Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. —teb728 t c 21:36, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your help, teb728! Another photo question: My article is currently in my Sandbox, as I am still working on it. At what point should the photograph(s) be uploaded by the photographer(s)? Once it is in Draft, or before? Thanks again Zuzuroo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Carole Basinger. A free content image (which is probably the only kind you would have on a biography) can be uploaded to Commons at any time. A non-free image like say File:Guster - Parachute.jpg (which would be used like only in an album article) can be uploaded to Wikipedia only when the article in which it is used has been published to article space. —teb728 t c 21:42, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Again, thank you teb728! I would like to contact the photographers to upload images, but will wait until it is published.Zuzuroo (talk) 20:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Page Header

I'm currently creating a page header for my user-space. How do I create a magic link that links to the talk page of whatever page the header is on, so I can use the header as a template and then link it to whatever talk page that header is on. I'm looking for something along the lines of:

If you have any questions feel free to put them on the [Talk Page Link | Talk Page] for this page [Page Name]

Is there a magic link that identifies the page and the talk page. I've seen it done in some templates, but I've spent an hour raking through them and can't find the specific code.

Thanks in advance,

Jake Symons (Talk) (Contributions) (User Space) 19:39, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Jake Symons: You can find all the magic words over at Help:Magic words. The one you're looking for is {{TALKPAGENAME}}; the full wikimarkup for the link would be [[{{TALKPAGENAME}}|Talk Page]]. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 20:26, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Also, a friendly heads up that you have an extra colon at the end of your userpage link in your signature :) ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 20:27, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I'll fix the colon and I've bookmarked that page, I should have done a search for Magic Words :) Jake Symons (Talk) (Contributions) (User Space) 21:06, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Adding to an article

Can you please add a picture of Smenkhkare's coffin as the article picture? The Pharoah I mean.


Yep. That's all I want. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Egypt Freak (talk • contribs) 21:57, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Egypt Freak. The article in question is Smenkhkare and that article says that there is no scholarly consensus that the coffin and the mummy are actually of Smenkhkare. Some experts believe it is Akhenaten. Accordingly, I do not believe that the photo of the coffin belongs at the beginning of the article. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 22:19, 27 December 2018 (UTC)
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