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Template:Infobox television film

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The result of the discussion was merge. As support is both broad and unanimous, I'm closing this myself, albeit my being the nominator, per WP:IAR. (nac) Alakzi (talk) 18:58, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Infobox television film (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Infobox television (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Infobox television film with Template:Infobox television.
{{Infobox television film}} is redundant to {{Infobox television}}, which is broader in scope, with the exception of |screenplay=, |story= and |budget=. Both are used for miniseries, e.g. Persuasion (1960 TV series) and The Citadel (1960 British miniseries). AussieLegend has combined the two infoboxes in Template:Infobox television/sandbox; there's a lone testcase here. Alakzi (talk) 21:55, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I fully support the merge, but I'm thinking a few more days are warranted; not even a full week has passed and the number of articles that would be affected by this change is so much more massive than the number of respondents to this issue so far. Snow let's rap 03:18, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge Most of the relevant parameters/salient details for a television movie can already be represented via the general television infobox, so the merger should proceed with relatively few hiccups. Further, I see no other likely downside here to counterbalance the interest in simplicity. Snow let's rap 03:18, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge I'm also for the merge, however I'd like to point out one downside to the merge. In television (at least as far as USA television goes), the person who gets more credit for the show is the writer (who in most cases is also the showrunner) and the director is in a technical position. In film, the director gets the credit (with cases of multiple writers and drafts for the film). If you take a look at the templates, you'll notice that they also use this distinction with director being above writer in the film and television film infoboxes, while writer is above director in the television infobox. As I noted, I'm in favor of merging, if only because as noted above, miniseries are being added with both templates. I'm not a coder so don't know if its possible, but if there was a way for the merge to happen and for the director credit in a television film to still be above writer, I'd be much more satisfied with the merge. --Gonnym (talk) 17:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonnym:, that probably will be solved when we merged it. Film and television infoboxes are different and are best to keep seperate, but {{Infobox television film}} and {{Infobox television}} are virtually the same with a few minor kinks and that's why it should be merge. BattleshipMan (talk) 01:22, 5 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Support for merger. Separate infoboxes for television programs of specific genres are completely unnecessary, and television films are no exception. Only one infobox is needed for this medium's programming. --SethAllen623 (talk) 18:33, May 4, 2015 (UTC)
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Template:Rfap

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The result of the discussion was do not merge. I was initially gonna let it run the full seven days after the crats were notified, but the nominator is not arguing their case any longer. Given the apparent lack of depth of this non-interchange, I'd been inclined to close it as a "no consensus"; however, xeno put forth a plausible counter-argument in their final response. (nac) Alakzi (talk) 16:01, 22 May 2015 (UTC).[reply]

Template:Rfap (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Rfah (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Rfaf (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Rfap with Template:Rfaf.
I think both templates should be merged to form a new template called Rfae (Request for adminship end) or Rfa-top (Request for adminship top) with a unnamed parameter which shows the successful RfA thing if p or s is used and the unsuccessful RfA thing if f or u is used. It would make things simpler. EDIT: When h is used it could place the RfA on hold. TL22 (talk) 21:52, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support, but leave redirects. Eman235/talk 00:26, 10 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Girls Can't Catch

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:24, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Girls Can't Catch (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Another navbox without enough articles to support it. Each of the three articles already link to the other two without it. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 20:36, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Polytechnic University of the Philippines campus map

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:23, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Polytechnic University of the Philippines campus map (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

pointless now that the image has been deleted. Frietjes (talk) 16:10, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Deletion pending

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The result of the discussion was delete/redirect. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:25, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Deletion pending (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Proposed template that never gained traction; redundant to {{Being deleted}}, where templates are concerned. Alakzi (talk) 13:09, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That's it? Just a vote? --TL22 (talk) 22:32, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
no, not WP:JUSTAVOTE, a suggestion. Frietjes (talk) 18:37, 28 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - {{Deletion pending}} is for "merge and delete" and "redirect" and {{Being deleted}} is for "delete". It is not to be confused. --TL22 (talk) 23:09, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • Is it actually being used though? The template was created 8 years ago, yet the doc suggests that it's still just a "proposal". A better name might help, if nothing else. PC78 (talk) 23:23, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • (a) Have you read the documentation of {{Being deleted}}? There is a "merge" parameter. Where templates are concerned, "redirect" is a supplementary outcome; it means, either, that some parameters are to be incorporated in another template, after which time the template can be redirected (a "merge"); or that the template is wholly redundant to another, but the name is kept as an intuitive redirect (a "delete" outcome). It's never been the case that we needed to advertise that a template's due to be redirected.
      (b) Where would {{Deletion pending}} be actually used, if kept? Alakzi (talk) 23:34, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Redirect per nom, assuming no one actually uses it. I can't see any significant difference in intended use compared to {{Being deleted}}. PC78 (talk) 23:45, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment - "Being deleted" covers a different situation, where the decision is actually happening imminently and automatically, perhaps within minutes, or implied to be very imminent. This template is for non-administrators watching the article, and readers who happen to be interested in the article, to be informed that the page could be deleted shortly, its content will then be inaccessible, and to copy or back it up locally if needed, before this happens.

    Perhaps this advice/info could be included in brief in the deletion process templates, though? FT2 (Talk | email) 09:12, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete then redriect, as redundant; and unused. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:26, 2 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Eddy MacDonald films

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2015 May 1. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:53, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Loy Powell Films

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2015 May 1. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 23:51, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Meryl Streep

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:23, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Meryl Streep (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

No actor filmography navboxes per Wikipedia:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers#Filmography navbox templates. Rob Sinden (talk) 10:22, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:The 100 (TV series)

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:14, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:The 100 (TV series) (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unnecessary template. Only four links, including the link to the main article. While it is likely in the future that more articles may be created, for now there are not sufficient articles to justify creation of a poorly populated navbox when internal links in the related articles will suffice. AussieLegend (✉) 10:05, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Inherit the Wind

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The result of the discussion was do not merge. (nac) Alakzi (talk) 22:09, 15 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Inherit the Wind (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Lawrence and Lee (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Inherit the Wind with Template:Lawrence and Lee.
The people mentioned are not characters from this work of fiction, but their real world counterparts. Not appropriate for this navbox and do not satisfy WP:BIDIRECTIONAL. The adaptations could easily be incorporated into {{Lawrence and Lee}} thus reducing the need for multiple navboxes. We could possibly also introduce Scopes Trial to this navbox, but it probably isn't really needed. Another option would be to have a separate {{Scopes Trial}} navbox which included the people involved and a "See also" pointing to Inherit the Wind (play). --Rob Sinden (talk) 08:51, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

On reflection, repurposing {{Inherit the Wind}} as a {{Scopes Trial}} navbox may be the best option (even including all the adpatations), losing the links to the writers only, as they are not directly related. --Rob Sinden (talk) 09:22, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Species abbreviation

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:15, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Species abbreviation (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This template is intended for use on disambiguation pages, however it seems like its use runs counter to disambiguation page guidelines, for several reasons:

  • The template does not provide a way to provide a common name or describe the species being linked, limiting its usefulness for disambiguation.
  • The template abbreviates the genus name, contrary to WP:PIPING.
  • The template does not find all relevant species, only those for which a page exists with the abbreviated genus name.

Other users have pointed out similar concerns on the template's talk page. Furthermore, it is unclear if the template's intended use case is valid in the first place. Linking to a species from a disambiguation page about the species name seems to contradict WP:PTM, since species are rarely if ever referred to solely by their specific epithet. For these reasons, using this template is counterproductive and I propose that it be deleted. Augurar (talk) 05:18, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Just for posterity, I've copied the talk page comments that object to this template, since these explain what the problem is for future editors that run across it. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 03:12, 28 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I found this used on a disambiguation page and see here that it is tagged as part of the WikiProject Disambiguation. However, its current function of hiding genus names is counter to the purpose and practice of disambiguation. If this template is meant to support disambiguation of species, I suggest the its purpose be identified and its function refined towards a productive end. P.S. I would also note, in the case of Excelsa, that a search shows many species articles excluded by the template's filter. ENeville (talk) 17:11, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

This template is not acceptable for disambiguation pages and I'd advise everyone not to use it there. Here's the issue:

Note, both of these are revisions of Cordata

Using this template violates many disambiguation MOS guidelines. First, the links should be the exact title of the article so users know exactly where they're going. Second, the links should be followed by alternate names, in this case the common names for the species. Thirdly, each link needs a description, for those who know the species ends in Cordata but aren't sure which one. For this template to be workable on disambiguation pages, it would need to somehow automatically generate common names and descriptions for each one, and link to common names if that's the article title.

One simple improvement that would be much easier to implement would be another template like this that doesn't abbreviate the genus. That gets us closer to meeting guidelines, but is still not quite there. Ego White Tray (talk) 02:39, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

Template:Unsigned-unk

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The result of the discussion was delete. If someone wants to merge it, go for it. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:19, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Unsigned-unk (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

A lazy person's version of {{Unsigned}}, the idea of the unsigned template is to sign comments so people will know who they were posted by and when they were posted. "— Preceding unsigned comment added by an unknown user" doesn't help that purpose. People should use Template:Unsigned for correct signatures. EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 18:48, 10 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Star Parivaar Awards

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 22:17, 9 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Star Parivaar Awards (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

This enormous template is too unwieldy for navigation. There is already a list at STAR Parivaar Awards which could better serve this purpose. Psychonaut (talk) 12:31, 13 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Delete - Per WP:NAVBOX, navboxes exist to facilitate readers' navigation among existing articles regarding closely related topics. Navboxes do not exist to daisy-chain multiple navboxes one to another. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:02, 27 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. Was willing to properly tweak this one until I saw all roads lead to the main awards page. — Wyliepedia 05:26, 29 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete. The article of STAR Parivaar Awards is a glorified stub with unclear notability. It links to next to no other articles. It uses untranslated terms like "buzurg", an Urdu term for "elderly person". The award categories are not explained at all. As it stands, I am surprised that the article itself is not proposed for deletion. It clearly does not need a navigation box. Dimadick (talk) 16:29, 6 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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