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Template:FIFA Executive Committee

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:FIFA Executive Committee (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 22:59, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, navigation between squad articles is covered by other templates (e.g., Template:FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup) Frietjes (talk) 22:59, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Excideuil

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Excideuil (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, former Canton, the communes are now in different Cantons Frietjes (talk) 22:58, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Evolution theories

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Evolution theories (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and duplicates navigation found in Template:Evolution Frietjes (talk) 22:56, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Evolutionary biology navbar

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Evolutionary biology navbar (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and duplicates navigation found in Template:Evolution Frietjes (talk) 22:55, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:European Club Association

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:European Club Association (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and probably too large for a navbox Frietjes (talk) 22:52, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:European Challenge Cup 2008-09

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:European Challenge Cup 2008-09 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and not the current list of teams Frietjes (talk) 22:52, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:EuropeanChampionshipsMedalistsDance

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:EuropeanChampionshipsMedalistsDance (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, current table is in European Figure Skating Championships#Ice dancing Frietjes (talk) 22:50, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Eurobasket 2011 venues

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Eurobasket 2011 venues (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and not particularly useful for navigation Frietjes (talk) 22:48, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:EuroSrTour player

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:EuroSrTour player (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Frietjes (talk) 22:48, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Etymology of 'asteroid' Cunningham 2013

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:02, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Etymology of 'asteroid' Cunningham 2013 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Frietjes (talk) 22:47, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

fine with me Paradoctor (talk) 23:11, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Ethiopia national football team results

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 03:03, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Ethiopia national football team results (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and all redlinks Frietjes (talk) 22:46, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am the sole previous editor. Thank you, I don't think there is a need for a discussion. I have moved this to my user page. —አቤል ዳዊት^?(Janweh64) (talk) 23:40, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Esporte Clube Internacional (SC) squad

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Esporte Clube Internacional (SC) squad (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, out-of-date, and duplicates Esporte Clube Internacional (SC)#Current squad Frietjes (talk) 22:46, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Espionage-side

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Espionage-side (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, duplicates navigation found in Template:Espionage Frietjes (talk) 22:45, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Erbil Province

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Erbil Province (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Frietjes (talk) 22:44, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Election box-NY 20 2006

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Election box-NY 20 2006 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, duplicates New York's 20th congressional district election, 2006#Results Frietjes (talk) 22:39, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Economy of the Arab world

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:17, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Economy of the Arab world (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, articles are using other templates instead (e.g., {{Asia in topic|Economy of}}) Frietjes (talk) 22:37, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:EchoCase

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:EchoCase (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, not clear where it would be used Frietjes (talk) 22:36, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Do not remember what I created it for again. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:40, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:EBL Men's Division 4 clubs

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:EBL Men's Division 4 clubs (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and out-of-date Frietjes (talk) 22:35, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Dutch municipality population/table row

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Dutch municipality population/table row (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Frietjes (talk) 22:34, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Dáil Éireann Members

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Dáil Éireann Members (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Dáil Éireann Members End (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, the list articles are using {{Dáil Éireann constituency}} instead Frietjes (talk) 22:32, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - unused, delete per nom. Spleodrach (talk) 13:30, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Dutch folk music

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Dutch folk music (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and no parent article Frietjes (talk) 22:31, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Japan Academy Award (film) footer

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Japan Academy Award (film) footer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

no longer in use after being removed in early 2016 Frietjes (talk) 16:40, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Footer Olympic Champions 4x100 m Men/year

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Footer Olympic Champions 4x100 m Men/year (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

no longer needed, content is in Template:Footer Olympic Champions 4x100 m Men Frietjes (talk) 16:38, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Footer 2008 Olympic Silver Medalists Gymnastics Men

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Footer 2008 Olympic Silver Medalists Gymnastics Men (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

seems odd to navigate between silver medalists. as far as I can tell this is the only silver medalist navbox. Frietjes (talk) 16:28, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Footer 2008 Olympic Bronze Medalists Gymnastics Men

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:19, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Footer 2008 Olympic Bronze Medalists Gymnastics Men (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused and seems odd to navigate between bronze medalists. as far as I can tell there are no other bronze medalist navboxes. Frietjes (talk) 16:28, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Fb wps footer

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:19, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fb wps footer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Frietjes (talk) 16:26, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Fb ps header

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:19, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fb ps header (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb ps player (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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unused Frietjes (talk) 16:24, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Fb inj header 2

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:19, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fb inj header 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb inj player 2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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unused Frietjes (talk) 16:23, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Fb MLS Eastern Conference club footer

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:19, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Fb MLS Eastern Conference club footer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb MLS Western Conference club footer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Fb NWSL footer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused Frietjes (talk) 16:21, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:OlympicYearWinterHeader

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:19, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:OlympicYearWinterHeader (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
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unused Frietjes (talk) 16:20, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Listed building table header

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by Athaenara (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 20:10, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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unused Frietjes (talk) 16:18, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I can't even remember what I set these up for and I don't intend to use them. Dave.Dunford (talk) 16:24, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Box-footer2

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:20, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Box-footer2 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

unused, not clear where it would be used Frietjes (talk) 16:05, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Emibai Jinnah

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:20, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Emibai Jinnah (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

I don't what's role of this template. E. Jinnah herself fails WP:GNG so why we have such template. Störm (talk) 15:03, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Emibai Jinnah is clearly notable as a former first lady of Pakistan. however, there are not enough links here for a navbox and all the links are in Template:Muhammad Ali Jinnah, so delete it. Frietjes (talk) 14:31, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Hybrid sport

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The result of the discussion was keep. Trimming of the unnecessary links is suggested. (non-admin closure) Nihlus 00:13, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Hybrid sport (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Not useful as a navigational aid. This is a list masquerading as a navbox. --wooden superman 12:02, 25 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nihlus 00:35, 2 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, seems like a reasonable navbox (not too many or too few entries) and there is a parent article, Hybrid sport. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:25, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I think if it is kept, it should be trimmed of the non-hybrid sports which are shown in brackets, and only include the sports which are hybrids. That would address my initial concerns I think. --wooden superman 10:15, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Third Position

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The result of the discussion was delete as there is no one defending this particular sidebar template. Please feel free to create a new Third Way or related template if you feel strongly that there should be one. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:32, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Third Position (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

The contents of the infobox are hopelessly jumbled between far-right groups and the Non-Aligned Movement. power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:41, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Unsure. While the contents of this infobox surely don't reflect the Italian-originated "Third Position" ideology (whose article, I think, tries to expand its scope way too far), I do think there should be a "Third Way" or similar infobox which contains some of the examples used in this one. SpikeballUnion (talk) 20:29, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Template:Turkvision Song Contest 2016

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:20, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Turkvision Song Contest 2016 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Turkvision 2016 was cancelled, none of the countries listed could have participated in an event that did not happen. power~enwiki (π, ν) 23:21, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Template:Turkvision Song Contest 2017

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:20, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Turkvision Song Contest 2017 (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Turkvision 2017 appears to be cancelled, none of the countries or artists listed can participate in an event that will not happen. power~enwiki (π, ν) 23:23, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Recent years

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Nihlus 00:13, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Recent years (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

WP:RY is no longer a guideline per Wikipedia talk:Recent years#RFC: guideline status of this project's inclusion, so this template no longer makes sense. The related edit notice has already been deleted. agtx 03:42, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Would it not make more sense to simply re-word it to reflect that RY is not a guideline? Something along the lines of "Articles about recent years can be rather contentious. Please consult WP:RY for advice based on general consensus about how Wikipedia writes and maintains such articles."? -- irn (talk) 13:28, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No. In fact, the closer of the RFC rejected exactly that kind of proposal with regard to the edit notice. RY is an essay, and it's not clear that it is even a good source for advice on current consensus. At best, keeping this TP notice around is a form of WP:SQS agtx 14:58, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not familiar with this RFC you're referring to. Do you have a link? You seem to be implying that the decision to remove the guideline status of RY equates to a total rejection of RY by the community. It may well be rejected by the community in the future, and I think processes are in place right now to that end, but we have yet to see that.

RY is an essay, and it's not clear that it is even a good source for advice on current consensus. Just because it's an essay and not a guideline doesn't mean it's no longer useful. It seems to me like you're arguing that RY is a bad essay and therefore should not be linked from a talk page template where the essay applies. I disagree with you, and I think you need to establish consensus for that.

As RL0919 pointed out, under WP:T2, the template could be speedily deleted for misrepresenting an essay as a guideline. I've changed it to spare it speedy deletion so that we can have this discussion. -- irn (talk) 15:54, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I do think it's a bad essay, but that's not why I think it should be removed from these talk pages. The reason is because there is not a good reason to push this essay as though it has broad (rather than merely local) consensus. The RFC is linked in my initial comment above. For the closer's comments on the edit notices, see [1] and [2]. agtx 16:17, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for those diffs; I see where I got confused regarding your comment. Anyway, I think your reasoning makes sense. However, when closing the RFC, the closer noted editors are advised to try to follow by the essay as far as possible, while working in the subject area. I read that as indicating that there is still general consensus regarding the contents of the essay, which would make it acceptable in my mind to have this sort of template on the talk page. Now, reviewing the diffs you provided, I'm not sure I'm interpreting/applying that correctly. @Godric on Leave: if you have the chance, I'd be interested in your opinion. -- irn (talk) 16:45, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Now that this is not a guideline, it should not be the topic of an article banner. It could even be considered a WP:T2 speedy deletion candidate. --RL0919 (talk) 15:11, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's a good point, so I've changed it to reflect that it's not a guideline to spare it from speedy deletion while this conversation happens. -- irn (talk) 15:54, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's a reasonable thing for the immediate concern, but in general we shouldn't have article banners based on essays, so I still believe deletion is the appropriate result for this discussion. --RL0919 (talk) 16:03, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No comments--Winged Blades of Godric^{On leave} 08:44, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per RL0919 and others. We don't need a banner for this. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:26, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Brad Pitt as a producer templates

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The result of the discussion was delete "Brad Pitt as a producer", but no consensus for {{Brad Pitt}}. Please feel free to renominate {{Brad Pitt}} if you would still like to have it deleted. Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 00:29, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Brad Pitt (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Template:Brad Pitt as a Film Producer (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Clearly contravenes WP:FILMNAV in that the templates are a collection of films (and in some cases, TV series) someone has produced. A producer is not the "primary creator" of a film or a TV series. —Joeyconnick (talk) 02:25, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_producer Ccawblake see link for more definitions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Grazer Some more food for thought

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Brian_Grazer No Consensus considered for deletion. Ccawblake be fair to all

More of the same below https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amblin_Partners — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccawblake (talk • contribs) 16:12, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

delete {{Brad Pitt as a Film Producer}} as a clear duplicate, but weak keep {{Brad Pitt}} since it could be a viable template even after you remove the producer credits, and there appears to be no consensus concerning producer credits in navboxes. Frietjes (talk) 16:50, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete {{Brad Pitt as a Film Producer}} which is redundant, but keep {{Brad Pitt}} which seems to be within WP:FILMNAV.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 19:32, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment it is unclear to me why {{Brad Pitt}} was just changed by Joeyconnick to look like {{Brad Pitt as a Film Producer}}, which seems to be about to be deleted.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 02:44, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- Because {{Brad Pitt as a Film Producer}} was a duplicate of {{Brad Pitt}} made by someone clueless but which others have made improvements upon, and since it looks like (much to my chagrin) the consensus here may well be to keep BP but dump the longer-named version (because the longer-named is obviously duplicating BP), at the very least it would be nice if the BP template was as good as possible. —Joeyconnick (talk) 03:01, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - You've copied the mistakes of the other editor though, by including TV series he did not create, and films which he was only the executive producer on. --wooden superman 16:18, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete both. Clearly not the primary creator. It seems crazy to have this on articles where he is not even mentioned. Doctorhawkes (talk) 21:29, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all. Not the primary creator per WP:FILMNAV. Seems the same editor is going crazy with {{Mel Gibson}}, {{George Clooney}}, {{Robert Redford}} and {{Jodie Foster}} too. --wooden superman 15:48, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

stop harrassing people, woodensuperman, read above some other comments too, Ccawblake— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccawblake (talk • contribs) 16:14, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There's clearly a WP:COMPETENCE issue at play here. --wooden superman 16:16, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Compared to good faith, which has been noted before, don't go DELTETING, maybe try editing, thanks woodensuperman! This is up for discussion, and you are just DELETING, which is WRONG! Ccawblake— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccawblake (talk • contribs) 16:22, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You've been making no end of weird edits. You don't really think that Kilroy (TV series) belongs in {{George Clooney}} do you? --wooden superman 16:29, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, actually, yes, he lives in the UK, as some major actors and producers do. Smile~ 16:49, 31 October 2017 (UTC)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Clooney_filmography ~ 16:51, 31 October 2017 (UTC)Ccawblake

That's the wrong TV series. But you also don't seem to be able to tell the difference between a TV series and a film, a producer and an executive producer, and you don't seem to have a very good grasp of our MOS. You're just creating a mess. --wooden superman 16:57, 31 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I was only following Wikipedia's page of his filmography. Are you getting nastier? Is that possible? More information and accuracy are always appreciated woodensuperman.~ 17:21, 31 October 2017 (UTC)Ccawblake The point that needs to be made is that the same template is being used for both directed by and then produced by as is the case with Brian Grazer or Steven Spielberg. When an actor produces and directs what template should you use and can we use words in front of that name to identify the template easier for the person to read. ~ 01:29, 1 November 2017 (UTC)Ccawblake

Comment This debate is being muddled by the fact that the editor who created the nearly duplicate template has attempted to add all of the content that made it slightly more extensive to the original one after votes started coming in to delete his version. I.E., one template had content X and another had content X plus content Y. When Votes started coming in to only delete the one that had content X plus content Y, the content Y was added to the original template and then delete all votes started coming in.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:59, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Producer navboxes are still problematic. The sheer number of navboxes on Moneyball (film) is a good example of why we should be restricting filmographies in navboxes to directors (and possibly writers). --wooden superman 16:24, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep the former, delete the latter. Some of the articles linked in the latter navbox don't actually mention Pitt. Jc86035 (talk) 08:14, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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