Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/George B. McClellan
George B. McClellan
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The result was: not scheduled by BencherliteTalk 21:45, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
George Brinton McClellan (1826 – 1885) was a major general during the American Civil War and the Democratic presidential nominee in 1864, who later served as Governor of New Jersey. He organized the Army of the Potomac and served briefly (November 1861 to March 1862) as the general-in-chief of the Union Army. McClellan's Peninsula Campaign in 1862 ended in failure, with retreats away from attacks by General Robert E. Lee's smaller Army of Northern Virginia and an unfulfilled plan to seize the Confederate capital of Richmond. His performance at the bloody Battle of Antietam blunted Lee's invasion of Maryland, but allowed Lee to eke out a precarious tactical draw and avoid destruction, despite being outnumbered. As a result, McClellan's leadership skills during battles were questioned by President Abraham Lincoln, who eventually removed him from command, first as general-in-chief, then from the Army of the Potomac. After he was relieved of command, McClellan was the unsuccessful Democratic Party nominee opposing Lincoln in the 1864 presidential election. He served as the 24th Governor of New Jersey from 1878 to 1881. (Full article...)
- Most recent similar article(s): Note: Wikipedia:Featured articles that haven't been on the Main Page/Date connection shows this is the only relevant WP:FA for date 3 December.
- Main editors: Wizardman
- Promoted: 2007
- Reasons for nomination: 188th anniversary of his birth.
- Extremely meticulously cited to in-line citations.
- Educational and encyclopedic about influential period of history.
- Support as nominator. — Cirt (talk) 20:10, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- I see Tammar wallaby was scheduled for 3 December, perhaps it could be moved ahead a bit, as it was a non-specific date and this is for a specific relevant date? — Cirt (talk) 20:17, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Support for reasons listed above.--NextUSprez (talk) 20:19, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you for the Support, NextUSprez, much appreciated. — Cirt (talk) 21:11, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Cirt, as I've noted on another nomination of yours, you've completely misunderstood the "most recent similar article" concept. Franklin Pierce on 23rd November strikes me as the most similar (US President in the 1850s) and with John Hay and Ostend Manifesto in October as well, the mid 19th century in US politics/history has hardly been under-represented in the last two months. (Going back a little further, we have Jefferson Davis and John Y. Brown in June as well). BencherliteTalk 21:02, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Bencherlite, this is the 188th anniversary of his birth and its encyclopedic, educational, and of an important and influential period in history. I think those other considerations can also be taken into account by the community. Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 21:04, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- 188th? And that is particularly important because...? And other articles we feature on the main page are somehow not encyclopedic and educational? And we ought to go overboard about biographical articles about men in mid 19th-century US history, as opposed to other countries and topics, because...? Perhaps I should link to WP:WORLDVIEW at this point, or are you familiar with that wikilink? BencherliteTalk 21:07, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- I've linked to WP:WORLDVIEW, myself, recently. Actually on another recent nomination which was successful. So hopefully that one balances out this one a bit. — Cirt (talk) 21:11, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, irony doesn't work on the internet. You've used it for a British man, London-born, who regarded himself as a Cockney. The fact that his parents came from such exotic locations as France and Italy doesn't mean that TFA has helped fight systematic bias by scheduling John Barbirolli. Admittedly the pool of potential TFAs is limited, but let's save "world view" comments for where they are justified. BencherliteTalk 21:27, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Then in that case I'm confused as to why you brought up WP:WORLDVIEW here. — Cirt (talk) 21:30, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Sorry, irony doesn't work on the internet. You've used it for a British man, London-born, who regarded himself as a Cockney. The fact that his parents came from such exotic locations as France and Italy doesn't mean that TFA has helped fight systematic bias by scheduling John Barbirolli. Admittedly the pool of potential TFAs is limited, but let's save "world view" comments for where they are justified. BencherliteTalk 21:27, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- I've linked to WP:WORLDVIEW, myself, recently. Actually on another recent nomination which was successful. So hopefully that one balances out this one a bit. — Cirt (talk) 21:11, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- 188th? And that is particularly important because...? And other articles we feature on the main page are somehow not encyclopedic and educational? And we ought to go overboard about biographical articles about men in mid 19th-century US history, as opposed to other countries and topics, because...? Perhaps I should link to WP:WORLDVIEW at this point, or are you familiar with that wikilink? BencherliteTalk 21:07, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Bencherlite, this is the 188th anniversary of his birth and its encyclopedic, educational, and of an important and influential period in history. I think those other considerations can also be taken into account by the community. Thank you, — Cirt (talk) 21:04, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
Closing as unsuccessful - too many articles about mid 19th-century US politics/history recently, besides which the article is an old FA and has been given the thumbs-down at User:Dweller/Featured Articles that haven't been on Main Page. BencherliteTalk 21:45, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
- Note: Further discussion about above was moved to this page's talk page at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests/George B. McClellan.