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Ontario Highway 55[edit]

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Ontario Highway 55 (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) review

Suggestion: Promote to A-Class
Nominator's comments: Highway 55 is a relatively minor former highway in the Niagara Peninsula. I feel the article is well written, well sourced and comprehensive, meriting a promotion to A-Class status.
Nominated by: Floydian τ ¢ 20:28, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
First comment occurred: 02:07, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Review by Dough4872[edit]

Review by Dough4872

I will review the article. Dough4872 02:07, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments:

  1. Are there any shields available for the Regional Roads?
  2. What is "fruitland" supposed to mean?
  3. The sentence "Highway 55 began at an intersection with the old Iroquois Road, which later became Highway 8, until 1970, when it became Niagara Regional Road 81; it is also known as Queenston Street to the west and York Road to the east." is wordy and should be condensed and/or split.
  4. "The roadway carrying Highway 55 continued south as Taylor Road (Niagara Regional Road 70).", didn't the lead say Highway 55 became Regional Road 55? Why does it refer to the former Highway 55 as Regional Road 70 here?
  5. The sentence "Pressing north, the highway passed beneath the QEW, which ascends over the Garden City Skyway to cross the Welland Canal" sounds awkward. How does the road ascend over the skyway to cross the canal? Better wording is needed there.
  6. The sentence "By 1959, a route down the new Kenilworth Access, north along Kenilworth Avenue and along what is now Burlington Street to the QEW; both routes existed simultaneously between 1957 and 1958." sounds awkward.
  7. "The entire route is located in the Regional Municipality of Niagara.", shouldn't this be past tense as Highway 55 is now decommissioned?
  8. How is East & West Line a major intersection? Dough4872 02:16, 13 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  1. There is for RR 55 and RR 81, but not the others. Do you think I should put the RR 55 shield in the infobox, or as a thumb in the article?
    1. You could add the RR 55 shield in a mini infobox in the prose. If possible, you can also request shields for the other RRs. Dough4872 00:18, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      1. I'm not sure a mini infobox is needed; RR55 is exactly what ON55 was... But I'll figure out some way to incorporate it. - Floydian τ ¢ 07:52, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  2. Orchards, in this case wineries.
    1. Do you think you can change "fruitland" to "orchards" or "wineries"? It would sound better. Dough4872 00:18, 16 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
      1. No problemo, fixed. - Floydian τ ¢ 07:52, 9 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  3. Fixed.
  4. Highway 55 became RR 55, but the road that continues south at the highway's southern terminus is RR 70. I reworded these first few sentences to make this clearer, I hope.
  5. Fixed. Now "which ascends over the Welland Canal on the Garden City Skyway."
  6. Fixed.
  7. Indeed. Have to override the template for now.
  8. No clue, but I'm doing as the note says. Sometimes the MTO distance tables (in this case the 1989 version I own) provide distances for the most minor of crossroads, often while neglecting a nearby major one. When an important road is missing, I measure from the nearest given road in Google Earth and calculate it... but if the MTO lists it, I generally include it, as the note says.
- Floydian τ ¢ 09:13, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Dough4872: have the concerns been addressed enough for a support? --Rschen7754 10:37, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Awaiting the mini-infobox to be added then I will support. Dough4872 00:18, 11 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Like I said, a mini infobox would be redundant since ON 55 and Niagara RR 55 are the same chunk of roadway. I could add the RR 55 shield as a picture thumbnail, beside/under the provincial shield, or as an icon in the infobox / junction table where appropriate. - Floydian τ ¢ 07:07, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You can add a thumbnail of the RR 55 shield to the History. I would be fine with that. Dough4872 01:18, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Concerns have been addressed. Dough4872 00:39, 14 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Review by Rschen7754

I will review this article after Dough. --Rschen7754 09:27, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox
  • Map?
References, RJL, lead
I've got a nice map made in qGIS from KML, but can't seem to export it to an svg. I'll see if one of the USRD Map Task Force members can convert the file... short of that I'd have to take a screenshot and upload as a png. - Floydian τ ¢ 21:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Problem seems to have solved itself, and a map is now in the infobox. - Floydian τ ¢ 08:01, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
RD
  • dead-straight?
History
  • Why the italics for Niagara Stone Road?
Images
  • Captions should end with a period if a complete sentence, and should not if not. --Rschen7754 08:20, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looks like every caption has a subject and verb, so periods for all! I never liked "straight-as-an-arrow"; figured "dead-straight" made sense, but I've changed it to the simpler "completely straight". - Floydian τ ¢ 17:57, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Review by Evad37[edit]

Review

I will review this article - Evad37 [talk] 07:41, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Lead and infobox
  • "The route divides..." – change to past tense: divided
  • Mississauga Street is mentioned in the infobox but not the lead, and Black Swamp Road is mentioned in the lead but not the infobox
  • Are there route markers for former highways 54 and 56?
Route description
  • Any information on traffic volume?
History
  • Have there been any notable accidents, or criticism of the road (safety or otherwise)?

Major intersections/References/External links – no issues

(The last two points depend on whether reliable sources can be found, if you can't find any then that's fine)

That's all - otherwise a short but good read. - Evad37 [talk] 08:27, 29 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Fixed
  • Added the latter to the lead, removed the former from the infobox as it is merely the local name of the last half a kilometre within Niagara-on-the-Lake.
  • Not at the moment, but I will be making markers for all the remaining highways in Ontario that lack one in the near future.
  • Unfortunately not. I only have traffic volume information for current highways.
  • Nothing that I've found. I'm sure there's something out there, but it would be very isolated. TBH I'm surprised it was even a provincial highway with Niagara Region in place.
-- Floydian τ ¢ 19:31, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Image check by Rschen7754[edit]

All fixed. I've made the assumption that the RR55 shield is covered by {{PD-simple}}, but barring that it didn't exist any earlier than 1970 and would have to be fair use for this article. - Floydian τ ¢ 20:57, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, image check  Done. --Rschen7754 21:58, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Spotcheck by Rschen7754[edit]

  • Source 15 - good on V and CP.
  • Source 8 - does not cover Iroquois Road.
  • Due to the small number of sources, this is probably enough. --Rschen7754 04:27, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Source 8 was more to back up the rest of that blurb, but now that you've pointed it out, I added a source for that section of Highway 8 being known as the Iroquois Road. - Floydian τ ¢ 04:31, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay,  Done and ready to close. --Rschen7754 04:32, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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