Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Bardanes Tourkos

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• Promoted. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 12:18, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Bardanes Tourkos

Nominator(s): Constantine ✍

The article passed GA some time ago, in May 2010. The bulk of the article has remained the same, but more details have been added since, making use of practically all the relevant bibliography. I feel that the article is complete and satisfies A-class criteria, and would eventually like to push for FA. Constantine ✍ 13:02, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Support:

• Interesting and well researched. Minor points follow:
• "He is usually regarded..." worth saying who regards him as this (eg. chroniclers? modern historians? etc.)
• "Thracesian Theme," - is there any way to explain what a theme is in this paragraph?
• "the exceptional post" - not quite clear what "exceptional" means in this context
• "The chroniclers agree..." this is the first mention of chroniclers; I'd either go for "Chroniclers agree..." or explain which they are.
• "to learn of his prospects." - "his" is presumably Bardanes, but could also mean the holy man.
• "the representative of traditional elites' opposition " - is elites meant to be in the plural here? It's also slightly unclear if this means the "traditional elites", who are opposing issues, or "traditional opposition" by the elites.
• "awaiting some revolt against" - I wasn't sure about the "some" here.
• "blinded Bardanes." is it worth explaining or footnoting that this would have disqualified Bardanes from ever becoming emperor? Hchc2009 (talk) 17:30, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for another review and the insightful comments! I've addressed all your points except for the second (on the themes). I think that the fact that there was a military governor of the "Thracesian Theme" will indicate that this is some sort of province, which is all that is necessary. If you have any other comments or observations, feel free to write them. Constantine ✍ 09:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Support: no major issues, just a couple of suggestions:

• "motivated chiefly by economical concerns". I think "economic concerns" would sound better;
• slightly inconsistent capitalisation: consider "horses of the Empress's carriage" as opposed to "The emperor had revoked the...";
• "This was a highly symbolical act". I think "symbolic act" would sound better;
• slightly inconsistent: "woman named Domnika" v. "along with Domenika";
• "File:Solidus-Nicephorus I and Staraucius-sb1604.jpg" probably should have date and author information added to the template if possible, although there is no issue with its licence because it has an OTRS ticket. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 04:23, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the review! I've corrected the issues pointed out. On the image, I am not sure what to add in the author and date section: the original uploader (Panairjdde) or the uploader to Commons (Saperaud)? Constantine ✍ 20:31, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

G'day, I think it would probably be Panairjdde as the original uploader. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 08:02, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

Done. Constantine ✍ 14:26, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Comment Support

• Technical bits:
  • No dablinks [1]
  • Reflinks good [2]
  • External links good [3]
  • Image licenses good
• References check out apart from:
  • The first Winkelmann et al ref, the ISBN "9783110151790" is showing up as invalid. The second ref is okay though. Is there a transcription error here?
• Source sampling not done
• Prose seems fine. A copyedit for run-on sentences might be worthwhile if the intention is to take the article to FAC, but otherwise no significant concerns.

Nice article. I'll be happy to support when the ISBN thing is addressed :) Best, EyeSerene^talk 11:27, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I've fixed the isbn, and I'll definitely have the article checked for prose before submitting it for FAC. Cheers, Constantine ✍ 14:26, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks :) Changed to support. EyeSerene^talk 12:12, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

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