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One of the Manhattan Project's more minor projects, but critical to the building of the atomic bomb. Hawkeye7 (talk) 00:20, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
Comments. As always, feel free to revert my copyediting. - Dank (push to talk)
- "0.222473 milligrams (0.00343328 gr)": Why that precision?
- Errr, it's what the source says. Do you have a suggestion for a better precision? Hawkeye7 (talk) 03:08, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- My source tells me that pi is about 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510. I don't generally include all those digits, though, because it's boring and not usually relevant to the narrative. - Dank (push to talk) 04:37, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Sure. Changed to "A curie of polonium weighs about 0.2 milligrams". The important point is that they processed a ton of lead oxide to produce less than a milligram of polonium. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:29, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- One thing that nobody seems to notice - perhaps everybody does it in America - is that Monsanto ran a chemical processing operation involving radioactive substances in a residential neighborhood. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:45, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- Sure. Changed to "A curie of polonium weighs about 0.2 milligrams". The important point is that they processed a ton of lead oxide to produce less than a milligram of polonium. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:29, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- My source tells me that pi is about 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510. I don't generally include all those digits, though, because it's boring and not usually relevant to the narrative. - Dank (push to talk) 04:37, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Cost: This section has only one short sentence.
- Expanded into a table, and moved into the Production section Hawkeye7 (talk) 03:08, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- Post war: Should be a noun, per WP:HEADING.
- Removed that heading. Hawkeye7 (talk) 03:08, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
- "a 2,000 pounds (910 kg) bomb": adj=on
- Support on prose per my standard disclaimer. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 02:00, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
Support: just a few minor suggestions: AustralianRupert (talk) 08:53, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- images seem appropriately licenced to me;
- in the lead, "recruited by the Manhattan Project in the role of coordinating the plutonium purification and production work being carried out at various sites" --> "recruited by the Manhattan Project to coordinate the plutonium purification and production work being carried out at various sites"
- "when Mound Laboratories were completed..." --> "when Mound Laboratories was completed" or "when the Mound Laboratories were completed"?
- " Early in 1943, he travelled to the East with..." --> is it necessary to capitalise "East" here?
- De-captitated. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:13, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- I see some British English spelling, for instance "centimetre" (which is probably due to the conversion template)
- Yes, that's right.
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cards added. It's all Noah Webster's fault. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:13, 15 December 2016 (UTC)- It has been pointed out to me that "meter" is not the official US spelling, just Noah Webster's. The Manhattan Project consistently used "metre". Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:20, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, that's right.
- was there a Unit II? Units I, III, IV and V seem to be mentioned, but not 2...
- Yes, but it wasn't very important. Added a bit. Hawkeye7 (talk) 22:13, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
- in the Production section, in the table, I suggest that "cost" be capitalised as "Cost"
- "until the 1980s, when it was demolished, and the land was sold in 1992." --> "until the 1980s, when it was demolished. The land was sold in 1992."
Support Comments by Sturmvogel_66
[edit]- The Talbotts were among the heirs of the Delco company, which was by then a part of General Motors.[7] This fortune had come in large part from profits made during World War I on airplanes that never flew. While it's interesting that Thomas was sort of self-dealing with his wife's family property, this bit really isn't relevant to the article.
- I think it is very important. Especially in view of what happens later in the article. It explains why the property was chosen. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:39, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- Only the fact that the family controlled the Playhouse is relevant to the article. The source of their wealth isn't relevant.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:46, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- Done Removed. Hawkeye7 (talk) 05:03, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- I think it is very important. Especially in view of what happens later in the article. It explains why the property was chosen. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:39, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- 0.2 to 0.3 milligrams (0.0031 to 0.0046 gr) What the hell's a gr? A grain? If so link the unit in the template on first use as I'd expect that most people also wouldn't know what that was.
- Done It's the American customary unit. In fact, it is the default conversion of the {{convert}} template. The conversion is mainly for Americans, as everyone else knows metric, and they are familiar with grains, since they own firearms. Linked. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:39, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- <Western drawl>I'm afraid that you're under a bit of a misapprehension, son; the only ones really familiar with grains are the reloaders, and they're a pretty small proportion of the American public, as the rest of us are content to buy our ammo as God intended.</drawl>
- Done It's the American customary unit. In fact, it is the default conversion of the {{convert}} template. The conversion is mainly for Americans, as everyone else knows metric, and they are familiar with grains, since they own firearms. Linked. Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:39, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- 32 to 83 curies (1.2 to 3.1 TBq) TBq = teraBequerels? Link this one as well.
- And PBq.
- Done Curies and becquerels are linked on first use. 1 Ci = 37 GBq Hawkeye7 (talk) 05:03, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- Historical Resume of Monsanto's Operation of the Dayton Project Sites-Unites I, II, Ill, IV and Others Fix the spellings here.
- And be consistent with the date format in the references.
- Nicely done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:55, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
- Consideration was given to using Unit II in December 1946, but was rejected in favor of erecting a Quonset Hut at Unit III. Missed this earlier. What's this in reference to?--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 02:46, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- Done Moved up two paragraphs to the Unit II discussion. Hawkeye7 (talk) 05:03, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
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