Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Heraklonas

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No consensus to promote at this time - Zawed (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 10:20, 19 August 2020 (UTC) « Return to A-Class review list[reply]

Heraklonas[edit]

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Nominator(s): Iazyges (talk)

I am nominating this article for A-Class review because I believe it meets, or else could meet, the A-Class standards, and it is part of my project to improve the articles of Roman and Byzantine Emperors. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 02:28, 3 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Iazyges: I believe a reason why this article has not received any reviews is its tenuous relationship to military history in that Heraklonas seems to be more of a bystander or victim of the events described and did not reign independently. As a result, I would suggest that you could take the article to FAC and bypass ACR for these reasons. Kges1901 (talk) 23:34, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Kges1901: I think that you are largely correct, although I will note that another of my nominations, Leontios, is suffering a similar issue, despite being an independent ruler. That said, classical/medieval history noms usually get a lot less attention at A-class reviews, but do not seem to suffer such at FAC. At the moment I plan to keep this open for a while longer, and if reviews are not then forthcoming, try it at FAC. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 06:01, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Iazyges: As a (former) classicist, I'm all for improving coverage but there's not enough here for this to be an A class article. I don't think its linked to him being a bystander or his reign ending when he was 15; I think you could write a lot more on the context, the cause of military weakness etc. Also, graphics are essential - we are writing for users, so maps etc are there to break up the blocks of text. Robinvp11 (talk) 18:24, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

G'day Iazyges, this one is likely to be archived shortly due to lack of reviews. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:39, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know that more comments would help at this point, but I wanted to echo my comment from the ACR page for Leontios. The prose here is well-written, and I don't doubt that it's using most of the available material, but it's still very thin on information about the primary subject. Again, I don't think this reflects on the nominator, only on the subject material. Many topics just don't have the depth of coverage for GAN, let alone ACR or FAC. Vanamonde (Talk) 21:34, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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